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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,458 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Good to see they're doing something about it but the line I quoted is frankly embarrassing for the super power America is. If they want to be the world police their production and stockpiles of artillery should have been far higher. Russia knew the west was relatively week and weren't deterred.

    "frankly, a very fragile setup where I could give you grid coordinates for like, four buildings in America, and if one of those, something happened tomorrow, we weren’t making anything … it definitely isn’t acceptable now, and we’re trying to get away from it."

    https://www.defensenews.com/land/2024/10/14/army-races-to-widen-the-bottlenecks-of-artillery-shell-production/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Hopefully this is good news. Its more if Putin says we end it, but we're keeping what we have in Ukraine. Is Trump happy with that or more no 100% leave all Ukraine territory including Crimea. Is Ukraine happy with that and if they keep trying to push Russia out of its territory then and Putin says well we agree to ending the war but Ukraine are attacking us.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,688 ✭✭✭Rawr


    If the first batch if KPA troops are “used up”, Kim does have access to many more. The Korean People’s Army (KPA) is made up of nearly a million active service personnel.

    It is however worth mentioning that the vast majority of that million are draftees with military service being compulsory for nearly everyone once they reach a certain age. So Kim can sent more troops…but the question is; will they be of the same quality? The Russians clearly don’t know how to use his better troops. If I were Kim (and had no moral compass what so ever), I wouldn’t waste quality troops on the Russians any more and send cannon fodder.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,020 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    "Stop this war or I'm going to sanction you"

    This was the master plan people. Incredible.

    Plus watch this space, he'll change tack any day now as soon he talks to Putin, calling it now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,091 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    There he goes again with the brilliant, concise soundbite - plays to Trump's pathological narcism perfectly:

    "Ending the war in Ukraine should be a victory for Trump, not Putin."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,465 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    to be fair, the "we can do this the easy way or the hard way" was a kind of cool thing to say. Like one gangster to another.

    If Trump really wants to end the war, give the Ukrainians a few hundred more Bradley's and other goodies.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Personally, I'd love to see European militaries , starting to form actual battle groups , gathering and equipping, training, so that if theure needed to go , it's not going to be a several month process .

    And yes that would be escalatory ,-

    In all that ,the US could quite happily sit it out - as the major Nato partner , they'd be the insurance that Russia doesn't strike at European ports or bases or cities - because that would invoke article 5.

    But you'd need to know the US would seriously back Europe , if it came to it ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,886 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    He seemed to set his face against America upping the ante militarily

    Though maybe this was just an opportunistic dig at Biden. Who knows with Trump?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Well, Ukraine has made great progress in reducing the Nr of Russian airborne attacks since they got permission to use US long range weapons. The fact that Trump cannot take credit for this success, may be what's bothering him?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,135 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    So Trump finally admitted he’s been a useful idiot for Putin for years.

    All this seems like a man who has no control over Putin but the other way around and now is afraid of looking weak.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,226 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Trump being Trump - having a simplistic, revisionist view of everything - I'd say he's as much of a concernik as any of our regulars on here: "I just want the killing to stop". And that's as far as his thinking goes. So Putin will tell him that he's on board with an immediate ceasefire, and a 200km demilitarised zone on Ukraine's side of the current frontline, and Trump will consider that a Great Deal and have no clue as to why Zelenskyy tells him to feck off.

    The only aspect that I can think of that might change that is that all Trump's dodgy deals must surely have brought him into contact with the Russian oligarchs whose finances are hurting now. If they don't believe that Ukraine is going to let up on shelling their refineries and their factories - because they know Zelenskyy won't agree to a worthless Putin promise - then they might be able to explain the reality of the situation to Trump in a way that he can understand.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,868 ✭✭✭yagan


    The Ukraine defence already is binding military logistics across the EU, and with NATO air command passed to Poland from the US there is in effect a European response in action.

    No one in Europe expects leadership from the US for the next four years, so NATO is effectively now a EU lead bloc that's was once transatlantic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭vswr


    one of the forgotten elements is the likes of Spain and Portugal aren't.

    Russia has also been sowing the seeds of major disinformation campaigns in these countries, to challenge the need for spending on defence, ergo, challenging NATO itself…. these campaigns start years before major events (i.e. Trumps entry to office).

    What is also overlooked is the coalition of the willing, which has nearly every Baltic country, France, UK and others willing to get involved.

    The manoeuvre of massive amounts of UK kit recently "for exercises" in Romania is a huge display of force.

    I think when Poland get delivery of some more if their ordered kit through the year, they'll be pretty much good to go in, if needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,740 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Well the foot on Irish soil bit we could make very hard by increasing territorials, arms dumps and ammunition in many areas. Increasing the army size and making them able to fight a guerilla war with an emphasis on fast and light armour and equipment. We should develop and buy our own drones for sea and air like Ukraine has done - sinking most of the Russian Black Sea fleet without a navy. Also a small moden airforce with proper radar and properly equipped ships to defend our coasts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,886 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    President Trump warned his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin to end the war in Ukraine quickly, or else face “high levels of taxes, tariffs and sanctions.”

    That kind of language in this context makes me think of

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    I don't believe the US did want to end this war.

    They were more than happy to see Russias economy and military weaken. Imo, Russia need it to end asap.

    Trump is cosy with Putin so who knows how this goes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭zv2


    It is over 24 hours now and the war is not ended. Trump is talking about tariffs but there's nothing to tariff. There is almost no trade between Russia and the U.S. The man is not in power a week and already he's looking like a complete bozo.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Dr Robert




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,405 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    Do you not remember his advice to Theresa May on Brexit? No? He told her to sue the EU.

    If anything, this is a master plan in comparison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,688 ✭✭✭Rawr


    So Donnie’s big plan to End the War in 24 Hours™ was to threaten tariffs…on one of the most sanctioned nations on the planet….

    (Slow-claps) Well done you Orange nit-wit. Now keep sending aid to Ukraine and go be stupid in the corner somewhere while actual adults deal with the world.

    (Like…I knew “Donnie in the White House 2: Electric Bugaboo” would be as stupid as the original…but Jesus Christ…is his head just stuck on “tariffs” like the rusted transmission of an old car?)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,634 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Shur it finished last week, NATO aggressor away with their tail between their legs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,634 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Just be grateful he didn't launch a meme coin.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,844 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Am I missing something? Trump is pushing Russia to end the war in Ukraine.

    Why is that bad?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,135 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,057 ✭✭✭✭briany


    This is always the question. I don't regard Trump's United States as a particularly reliable military partner, so any deal that leaves Ukraine potentially vulnerable to another Russian attack i.e. promising to remain out of NATO with Russia being allowed to have what they hold, would be a deal that is extremely fragile.

    That said, it's really up to Zelensky and the people of Ukraine, should a serious deal be offered, but I don't see the US being any use as a guarantor. European nations would need to step in on that role.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,886 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    His 'push' has no meaningful force behind it; it's just bluster AFAICS…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭Wayne Gorsky


    oh, in the British absolutely, and big-time so…re America, everybody knows the weight in 'Anglo-American' has shifted quite a bit over the past two centuries…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,634 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    I for one will gladly compliment him if he gets Putin to withdraw.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭Wayne Gorsky


    The name was actually Grok Weisenheimer…my point is that it's all part of old developments, not isolated events…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,020 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Trump's man Kellog tasked with ending Ukraine war in 100 days. All that talk and their opening move is to show complete weakness to the Russians.



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