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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,119 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Ukraine war ended yet????



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,442 ✭✭✭✭walshb




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,016 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I heard somewhere once that the difference between the political right and political left, is that the political right put power over principal, whereas the left do the opposite. If you're morally tainted in some way that the left wing doesn't like, you'll be excluded from that bloc whereas the right wing doesn't really care if you're a useful ally to help obtain power.

    You see this with Donald Trump - he'll literally sing the praises of people who were talking sh— about him the previous week if they change their tune the next week. Remember Lyin' Ted, as Trump called Cruz. As soon as Cruz started stumping for Trump (swallowing a lot of pride, no doubt), Trump was like, "Yeah, now he's 'beautiful Ted'"

    This is also why you see the Christian right in the US being firmly behind Trump, despite him being a philanderer, great pal of Jeffrey Epstein, and someone who has zero spirituality etc. etc. He's an excellent wrecking ball to achieve their aims. They'd literally vote for the Devil, with big horns, red skin and a tail, if he got abortion rolled back on to the extent that Trump has, with potentially more to come.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    If you made the tiny effort to look up the Episopal church, they've always been far ahead of a lot of churches on LGBT rights. First gay priest was back in the seventies, they also had their first transgender priest twenty years back. So your point falls flat ultimately.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,610 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Christians tend to be much more interested in inflicting cruelty than mercy. Bishope Budde is very much an outlier.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,181 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    I'll never forget being at the opening day of a season baseball game in Florida when GW was president: he came up on the big screen to say a few words before General Petreaus (very militaristic) threw the first pitch. Two people in the row in front and one turns to the other: "I may not like the guy, but he sure is mah president".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,119 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Well yes seems it’s another lie by Trump.


    Do we just ignore all the lies now? Is he immune to criticism?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,687 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Point taken, I didn't know it was an Episopal church.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    you’d think they’d have some restrictions on the guns thing.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,840 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    And when Trump disappoints their expectations….



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    Well they do have the right to arm bears or something like that.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,888 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Presidential pardons are pretty strong. Other levels are less accommodating of restoration of rights.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,030 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Elise Stefanik, Trumps nominee to the UN, said in her senate approval hearing that she believes that Israel has a biblical right to the entirety of the West Bank in Palestine.

    Coupled with Trumps comments in the Oval office dismissing entirely the people of Gaza and considering only the development opportunities of the area it's not an exaggeration to say that Palestine not exist as an active entity by the time of the next US election.

    Of course Trump will shrug his shoulders and say it's not his war, it's nothing to do with him and senior Democrats can fcuk off given how they facilitated Biden in enabling Israel for the last 16 months. Its depressing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,224 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    To all the 'Populists' who think Trump is the answer

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Trump has signed an executive order eliminating the task force, created by President Biden, to reunite families separated at the border by Trump during his first term.

    For four years, we listened to his followers say Biden was the same as Trump on the border.

    Are.we clear now?

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,587 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Quite depressing actually. The fact that more civilians have been slaughtered with American munitions than any other nation and that we,Europe, are somehow beholden to these bastards is equally depressing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,587 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Give him a chance, it's only 5pm in Washington! This shyster will bring nothing, zilch, to America only misery and unrest!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Every country around the world is going to lose something due to the Trump presidency. For some it will be political and territory while for others it will be the economic consequences of American protectionism.

    It's unfortunate but any fair minded person would say it's understandable if you're American and feel your nation's wealth and capital has been freely spread around the world with not very much in return from everyone else. They are wondering what American driven globalism that has made other countries rich, like Ireland, has done for them.

    This has all been coming for years.

    As for the Palestinians (and many others), yeah it won't be pretty.

    'America first' doesn't mean 'America only' but it does mean retrenchment and a renewed focus on their own interests.

    The only question is will it be only 4 years or will this be a permanent adjustment because if Trump's policies work and Americans start seeing improvements it will be hard for subsequent administrations to change course again.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,888 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    If they haven't reunited the families after four years, there is a point of diminishing returns for the expense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭Rawr


    In the first term Trump seperated families from their young children without any organised plan for future reunion. Many of these kids were very young, barely past toddler-hood, so they themselves wouldn't know enought to point to a parent's name or other details.

    So as a stunt to impress the worst elements of his supporters, Trump pushed for a family seperatation plan at the border and didn't give a fiddlers about how it was done so long as it could be shown off that it was being done. That inhumanity is part of why he should never have been in the post the first time, not mention this already feckless sequel.

    Thanks to Trump's lack of management, four years was likely never going to be enough. Tragically, many of those kids might never have been reunited with parents due to the herculean challenge of finding kids without accurate documentation and many years after the fact.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Yes. Of course.

    If cops can't solve crimes after four years, they should close the case.

    ??

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,030 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Can someone tell me why trump pardoned BLM and antifascists who caused jan 6?

    Can one of his followers tell me how a convicted felon, who claims to have respect for the police, pardoned those who attacked them?

    Post edited by everlast75 on

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,595 ✭✭✭francois


    Going to war against drug cartels, yet pardons Ross Ulbrecht, a man who ran a global drugs market.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,048 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    The US is the richest and most powerful nation ever. The majority of people in the world can only dream of the wealth and standard of life that Americans have.

    The problem isn't the rest of the world, the problem is the vast inequality within the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,805 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭ronjo


    There may be something to that if he hadnt threatened to send troops to Panama you would think?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    No way will America be a richer country engaging in isolation and tarriffs etc. They tried it before it didn’t work then won’t work now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭Field east


    just heard on radio that Trump has called her ‘nasty’ and said that ‘she is not good at her job’ I am really , really stuck for words and I have the most recent version of the Oxford Dictionary.
    Trump is becoming more and more like Putin ie if you are not for me you are against ME and AMERICA and I am going to see to it that you will be followed up relentlessly And you will be neutralised , ostracised , etc, etc, etc, and maybe even have a ‘ fatal /near fatal ‘ accident



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,395 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The pathetic man child Trump has a hissy fit when someone calls him out on his race baiting and scaremongering about minority groups…

    PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP called a Washington bishop “nasty” and demanded an apology, after she told the US president from the pulpit that he was sowing fear among the country’s immigrants and LGBTQ people.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/washington-bishop-urges-trump-to-have-mercy-6600600-Jan2025/

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭Soc_Alt


    At least they will make savings on their Foreign Aid and financing of other countries defences with 0 returns and I don't blame him for prioritizing these areas.

    NATO and UN will be interesting.



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