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Getting rid of Smartphones.

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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 13,382 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    The mobile is way too helpful when traveling to forego. From holding your boarding pass to letting you know of delays, being able to look up local transport times and routes when you arrive in a foreign city. Looking for restaurants, local attractions, calling taxi services, etc etc etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭thereiver


    They ,d be watching TV or playing video games I think kids should be banned from social media til the age of 17. Social media can be used for bullying it's a waste of time I see no problem with people listening to music on a bus I don't know anyone on a bus are you supposed to talk to strangers before smartphones people used ipods radios or mp3 players . Most company's expect you to use apps to book journeys flights it's hard to be an adult without using apps employees use apps I think you can't ignore tech or rewind the clock to a more simple time .company's expect you to use apps or email customer service



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,859 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Someone said something to me recently about pre and post smartphones , and it's completely right.

    If someone makes any kind or statement or asks you any type of question, you immediately go to the phone to verify if its correct or what the answer is.

    "What do you call that guy who used to be married to X"

    Or

    "I think X won that in 1980".

    But pre smartphone, you kinda said "I think you're right or you're wrong". That was it, over and done with.

    Now, you just have to have the answer. How often do you find a question popping into your head when you're in conversation, or sitting watching a match or a tv programme? And you head for the phone.

    As the wise person said to me, just tell yourself you don't really need to know the answer to that question. Leave the phone in your pocket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,537 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    I deleted Facebook about 6 years ago, finally managed to keep it deleted for 30 days to enforce a permanent delete, then soon after discovered Instagram which I liked first just followed people I knew but it soon became something that just threw marketing and advertising at me so I got rid of that too.

    Never one for twitter at all. But wasted a lot of time on the other 2.

    Spend too much time on boards recently despite all the bugs so will have to have a look at that. Missus away with work so bored typing early morning here can't sleep!

    Apart from nonsense sites like the above, smartphones are extremely handy for a lot of things and should free up our time for doing things we love, hobbies, sport, exercise, meeting friends as they take care of a lot of life admin very efficiently.

    Instead they are a modern addiction and probably take away our time instead of giving us time back. I'm off it when I'm busy in work or out and about but as soon as I have downtime alone, I'm glued to it.

    Used right, they are brilliant but we don't use them right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭Papagei


    I would suggest deleting instagram, Facebook, Snapchat, Tiktok and any similar apps. They desensitise people's dopamine reward mechanism.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Mobile phones have very useful use,s maps, you can look at schedules ,timetables , we are not going back to the time of people carrying mp3 players, radios ,camera,s .And you can phone or txt people.not everyone is on facebook or snapchat. people used forums on pcs before smartphones were invented. i think schools should have lockers ,you leave your phone in take it back at 4pm. teachers are saying students are looking at social media in class instead of concentrating on the subject or listening to the teacher. Imagine going on a holiday without a smartphone , it shows you the local cafe restaurant reviews map bus timetable ,its not really a luxury.no ones going to start buying guidebooks and tourist guildes.

    i know its a problem people constantly checking social media or tiktok for some people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,606 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Bluffers don't like to be fact checked.

    Social media has provided a means to promote fake news, propaganda and conspiracy. It's rampant the amount of drivel you hear parroted from people is unbelievable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,606 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Whatever value they had at some point has been trashed by the utter garbage they allow to be published.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Social media is used to raise money for charity promote good causes and it's used by minoritys to talk to each other .it's good and bad some people become obsessed and just live their life on social media it can be used to waste time . Yes meta now says there ll be no more moderation hate speech will be allowed people spread conspiracy theorys on YouTube and tik tok as well as social media .

    Before social media people would complain about young people playing video games or watching too much tv .

    I suppose people use meta to keep in touch with relatives abroad.

    The internet means anyone can make podcasts or YouTube videos .I think parents should check kids phones no one under 16 should be allowed have a Facebook account .I just think it's too young it's like driving a car it's too much for children to deal with



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭L Grey


    I just don't think that if we somehow got rid of smartphones that people would suddenly start leading full and meaningful lives.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    False equivalence in comparing it to a laptop or TV. We're talking about a piece of tech that is with you at all times, it is ruining people's capacity to engage with life. And mostly it's social media by extension when we say smart phones are a scourge.

    Parents scrolling their phones as their child plays on the floor by themselves. Every single life event is put up on stage for judgment by people you don't even care about on social media. Using it as a means of validation and vindication.

    "Here do that again and will get a story" No just let the moment be and stop trying to take the magic of the spontaneity of a moment/memory.

    Rotted attention spans because of shorts on nearly every social media platform.

    People can't even watch the original distraction which is TV. Scrolling through twitter, and social media as they're watching a show/movie.

    Making a much bigger effort to stay away from my phone this year, but think it will be a process of claiming my attention span back inch by inch. Just so hard not to have to engage with a phone as it's so inundated in our lives.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    It's a complete and utter addiction. I need to stop my use except for essential functions. I don't use social media except for boards.ie. I stop playing video games and then ended up using YouTube on the smart TV. This all has come to a head since covid. Makes my mental health issues a lot worse. Worse anxiety, depression, cynicism, burnout. I can't read a book, I can barely watch a movie. I can't search for a better job. My focus has gone to hell. Now, there are other things at play here for me, but the horrible crutch of the mobile phone has got to end for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭taxAHcruel


    It sounds awful. I am glad I have avoided most of it.

    Was only buying stuff yesterday and passed not one but three separate women pushing toddlers in buggies through the Tesco. All three of them still with soothers in mouth but scrolling a mobile phone like a pro.

    A lot of people training the addiction into their kids early.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,978 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    I saw the comedian/writer/actor Marcus Brigstocke being interviewed at the weekend, and when he was told that fellow comedian Tim Vine didn't have a smartphone, just a Nokia held together by sellotape, he said he should do that because he'd get back 8 hours hours a day…but then probably waste them played Snake. 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    No but I want the life I had before smart phones. Conversations with friends/family without us all ending up on our phone at some point or someone on their phone as you're talking to them. And many other insiduous ways smart phones ruin everyday life, just those things back.

    No one thinks they're going to grab life by the horns giving up their phone. They just want to be able to do something for more than an hour without feeling the pull of their phone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭L Grey


    Ah yes, the societal utopia that was the Pre Smartphone Age.

    Shure you could leave the key in door.

    Jumpers for goalposts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭chrissb8




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,200 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    It's a good thread. I'm concerned at my own phone usage.

    I quit Twitter last week (which I loved), mostly in a fairly meaningless protest of Musk. I was surprised how much 'time', I got back.

    I opened a BlueSky account, but just don't care very much about it. It largely looks like Twitter, but doesn't have the same pervasiveness.

    I have noticed my attention span has dipped badly over the last couple of years. I do sometimes find it hard to stay concentrated in work over long periods, and I haven't been able to get through a book for quite some time. I was an avaricious reader growing up.

    May have to set some rules for myself in 2025. No phone before bed, that kind of thing. I would like to put my phone somewhere during working hours, but I need to make and receive calls.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭taxAHcruel


    Not sure if this helps much - but your two posts put me in the mind of a friend who also was lamenting his loss of ability to read books. Caused by computer gaming and phones and you tube.

    I went over one time to his place. While I was there I had a look at the books he had been trying to read. There was some good stuff there, but a little heavy.

    It struck me that perhaps it's a bit like doing weights for years - stopping for years - and then trying to pick up (pun) where they left off rather than starting again with a much lower weight.

    So - since I have a habit of reading books that I intend to give my kids, so I know what I am giving them - I gifted him the entire collection of Young Adult books in the "Skullduggery Pleasant" series. He is now back reading again.

    The shift back to lighter, funner, Young Adult books was like starting again at a lower weight. And he quickly worked his way back to reading the stuff he actually wanted to read. He went from the SP books above, through the slightly heavier Hunger Games and His Dark Materials series and then onto more adult books again.

    As for anxiety and attention span - at the risk of getting all religious about it like I tend to, I can heartily recommend Jiu Jitsu as a potential fix for both of these things. As someone with all such kinds of historic mental health issues I credit BJJ with being one of the top three things that got me out of a deep deeeeep rut in life. And while my demons will always be with me, it is one of the things that keeps them totally buried and me in a positive place in life.

    Also mixing meditating and running. Not that I can't sit still and meditate, which is the traditional way of doing it. But it's actually perfectly possible to do it while running. Either by myself, or with some supporting material on head phones like the Waking Up App.

    Attention span, like the reading and the weight lifting analogies - seems to me to be something you need to work back into too if you lose it.

    Edit: Also on the phone calls thing - get a cheap as chips "dumb" phone and simply switch your SIM card into it during the times you want to be smart phone free, but still get your calls. Or divert your calls to a standard land line or other Dumb Phone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,200 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Thanks, appreciate the recommendations.

    BJJ is interesting, I have considered boxing in the past. Physical activity is the no 1 thing I think for wellbeing: healthy body, healthy mind.

    Those are good ideas on the divert/ sim switch.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,200 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Boy, I miss the time you could see who thanked posts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭sprucemoose


    Rush goalie. Two at the back, three in the middle, four up front, one’s gone home for his tea. Beans on toast? Possibly, don’t quote me on that. Marvellous



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld




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