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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    YouTube is mostly blocked in Russia according to recent news

    probably cheaper to pay spam farms in India anyways, them Russians have loads of rupees now that they can’t spend outside India anyways

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,091 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    You know who co-founded Google and still has one of the 2 controlling interests? - Sergey Mikhailovich Brin. Born in Moscow. Ok, he emigrated when he was 6 but…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,091 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Russia was planning terrorist acts against airlines all over the world - Prime Minister of Poland Donald Tusk."Some acts of sabotage or preparations for diversion were very dramatic. I will not go into details about this latest information, but I can confirm the validity of these fears,

    The west needs to wake up, fund and support Ukraine 'till Orcistan collapses, then we go in and run the place in a civilised manner - think Japan post WW2.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,226 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    :D I think that is exactly the nightmare scenario Putin is trying to forestall!

    Of course he's made it all the more possible now, by draining the outer Republics of healthy young males and leaving swathes of the countryside ripe for exploitation by western (and far eastern) capitalists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,459 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    So are we all going to stop using YouTube/Google now as well? Quick someone setup BlueTube.

    The masses will continue to use the likes of YT/X. I often talk to normal un-informed people in person who will come out with a classic russian support line. No harm of their own they've just read some bollox in twitter, tiktok, YouTube etc. Easy to set them straight with a few facts and they quickly realise Ukraine are 100% the good guys.

    If all of us hardcore Ukraine supporters leave these platforms the pro Russian voice grows and more of the masses get swayed away from Ukraine. This point has been made by many pro Ukraine voices who remain on X. I for one will keep fighting the good fight and will be liking/reposting pro Ukraine posts/comments to my hearts content.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,031 ✭✭✭jmreire


    That will not be so easy to do.. both Germany and Japan were single entitys,both responding to a single government structure. That will not be the case with Russia, not alone because of the sheer size of the Country, but the diversity of the population, who have lived within a framework of corruption for generations. First, they will have to change their society themselves, and only after they have achieved that, then re-integration into civilised society can begin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    I think its possible to do good on these platforms refuting their lies, and even if its only exasperating Vatniks and the MAGA. I managed to get three anti-semites banned on the ''X'' so it seems there are still some good moderators.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,091 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    It seems the earlier reports and assessments of N Korean troops were wrong, which is very unfortunate.

    It seems that the North Korean soldiers sent to the battlefield in Russia's Kursk region are not as poorly trained as initially hoped.

    Ukrainian forces fighting in Kursk describe North Koreans as highly skilled, fearless and motivated soldiers, although they were previously called "cannon fodder" who "will desert as soon as they have the opportunity."

    The first information that emerged in December characterized the Ukrainian military as being too poorly integrated into the combat gear of the Russian forces. However, after more than a month of fighting, it seems that the level of North Korean soldiers is above expectations, although the rate of losses among them is very high.

    Yuriy Bondar of the Ukrainian air division Galician Lions, which was one of the units that clashed with them, confirms: "The enemy is not surrendering. It (auto) eliminates in the same way - a grenade next to the head and that's it. Those who remain on the battlefield are sprayed with flammable liquid and burned," Bondar said in a Facebook post.

    The Ukrainian soldier explains what the strengths of Kim's soldiers are.

    "They are extremely resilient, extremely well trained, morally strong," the Ukrainian soldier describes them, quoted by Politico. According to him, the Koreans are capable of conducting dynamic attacks, catching Ukrainian soldiers "off guard" and occupying their positions, even if Ukrainian soldiers outnumber them.

    Bondar quoted the words of one of the Ukrainian commanders in the Kursk region, who told him: Compared to the soldiers of the DPRK, the Wagnerians of 2022 are children.

    He also confirmed that the North Koreans are very good with small arms, shooting down a "surprisingly large number" of Ukrainian drones.

    "They demonstrate psychological resilience. Imagine, one runs and attracts attention, and the other from an ambush shoots down a drone with precise fire," Bondar said.

    He confirmed reports in a notebook taken from a slain North Korean soldier describing the tactics used against drones: One of the group of soldiers serves as "bait" to get the drone's attention. As the drone begins to get closer, "the others are trying to shoot it down with guns."

    "They are young, motivated, physically fit, brave and good at handling weapons. They are also disciplined. They have everything a good infantryman needs," Cepurny also remarks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭Mike3549




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭yagan


    The first information that emerged in December characterized the Ukrainian military as being too poorly integrated into the combat gear of the Russian forces.

    Your source isn't great on detail.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭junkyarddog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    I’d believe it to a point.

    The initial Kim brigades will have been his elite soldiers. The core NK army will not have got the same training, especially enough ammunition to become proficient at shooting. They will have been the most nourished. Subsequent “volunteers” will not be so “elite”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,091 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    That was a translation from Romanian. Found the original source and the message doesn't get any better.

    So, either the Ukrainian soldier is actually something else and Politico was carless and got had, or it's unfortunately true.

    I would much prefer the North Koreans to remain hopeless and pose little danger to Ukrainian troops, but if those same troops are now changing the narrative, we should pay attention, because it makes the prospect of a lot more of them being sent over a whole lot more serious and boosts the argument for tit for tat and western troops being sent to bolster Ukraine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,091 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Screenshot_20250116-033121_Bluesky.jpg

    Anyone missing a box of matches?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    1.7m Rubles isn’t a hell of a whole lot. May have cost more to destroy it 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,226 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Every quote attributed to a Ukrainian and supposedly told to Politico or others in the last few days was posted and/or quoted word for word at the beginning of December on various other platforms - including this one.

    The whole article has a hugely "AI churn" feel about it, e.g.:

    Ukrainian soldiers fighting in Kursk describe North Koreans — previously dubbed “cannon fodder” that will “defect as soon as they get to fight” — as highly skilled, fearless and motivated infantry.

    “They have been blowing themselves up when they see capture is in sight,”

    Well, blowing yourself up instead of fighting is hardly a sign of great motivation or professionalism, is it? And the article made no mention at all about the Ukrainian drone pilots who said, last week, that eliminating Koreans in the field has turned out to be a hell of a lot easier for them than their training exercises.

    To cap it all, if the NKs are "highly skilled, fearless and motivated" (which exact quote, now that I think about it, was originally attributed to a Russian commander in Nov/Dec), how is it they've lost about a third of their entire force not retaking any of Kursk from the Ukrainians?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 837 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    The next 4 years are going to be difficult.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    • USSR will return in 2025
    • Moldova threatened
    • Crimea and all of the 4 provinces Russia claims but decades away from capturing at this rate are “Russia”
    • No interest in negotiating


    Nothing new here but interesting nonetheless how rhetoric from Putin’s right hand man’s matches exactly what “friends of Russia” were peddling here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,091 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    I recently bought a pack of 3 lighters for 85c because matches were €1.39. Cheaper than €16,101



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,888 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Is the understanding that the Koreans are 'officially' only fighting in Kursk? Is this part of the 'rules of engagement' for the conflict? If the Korean soldiers really are this hot, could that affect the overall calculation of whether the Kursk intervention was a good move on Ukraine's part?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,688 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I might agrue that strategically the UAF's move into Kursk might have paid off in part due to the North Korean involvement. By that I mean the following:

    • Russia has now shown their hand on how short handed and over extended their own military are in this conflict. It sort of underlines my suspicion that the forces they have in the Donbass amounts to pretty much the entire active Russia military. So they had to bring in North Koreans to make up for their lack of numbers / ability.
    • I suspect that Kim was honestly sending some of his best troops. They may have been characterised as cannon fodder, and a good few of them might have become cannon fodder, but I'm wondering if that wasn't the intention. My guess is that Kim sent good troops with the intention of retaking Kursk; but due to combination of Russian fecklessness in the local command and the possible fact that good NK troops can only hope to match experienced UAF forces in battle.

    So this may have illustrated a load of weaknesses that the UAF can take advantage of, by virtue of the Koreans joining in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,091 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    It's my understanding that the Korean troops are only in Kursk, though it wouldn't surprise me if there were small numbers of observers in other regions gaining experience and knowledge of actual combat, as I don't see any benefit to Kim if no one comes home with battle experience. Unless of course that wasn't actually the deal and that they were simply currency to buy tech from Russia and none were expected to ever return.

    I don't think their presence alters the rationale for the Kursk move one iota, it will probably reduce the amount of Kursk that might be held come negotiations. Kursk was brilliant.

    It's telling how many of Ukraine's moves have been viewed with extreme suspicion, if not criticism, by the US, only for them to later acknowledge their wisdom and benefit later, like the attacks on targets deep inside Russia, especially oil production and storage facilities, explosives manufacturers and anything making critical components of weapons systems. The US didn't like the Ukrainians attacking the early warning radars but you can bet they were probably being used against Ukraine's interests:

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/05/30/7458306/

    The US foiling Ukraine taking out Putin was wicked, but then Jake Sullivan is like that. If only Biden had listened more to Gen. Ben Hodges, rather than that twerp.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    Ukraine have taken on board a lesson early on this war which shaped their actions

    “How do you bring down and eat an elephant?”

    ”one bite at a time”


    They have systematically shattered a lot of the wrong perceptions we in west had about Russia, to the point that even friends of Russia here find it hard to argue their drivel without sounding like complete nutters

    Perhaps the biggest mistake Putin made was attacking a country whose population knows how Russians think and operate

    I suspect any other European country would have long capitulated because of “perceptions” that “Russia big, Russia endless equipment and manpower” which is a lie



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    Does Putin have a private personal defence bodyguard of a couple of hundred thousand?

    is this the great deterrent for the Russian people thinking of starting anything?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,688 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Wouldn't surprise me if he maintained a corps of loyalist troops of slightly better quality. I suspect if the Russian front ever collapsed, the only thing between him and the wrath of others, would be that personal guard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭thomil


    I'd take it as a given that the Kremlin Regiment, the unit charged with guarding the Kremlin, is effectively Putin's personal guard. The regiment is not part of the military but of the Russian FSO or "Federal Guard Service", which is also charged with security for Putin's residences and providing security for high level ministers and bureaucrats. All of this rolls up into the office of the president, which means it's under Putin's direct control.

    That said, I'm not sure how effective this regiment would be if push came to shove. It looks like a pretty normal Russian army regiment, and I'm pretty sure that they're near the top of the pile when it comes to getting equipment and funds, but I don't know well the unit would fare in an actual high-intensity combat situation, especially since the regiment doesn't seem to have any organic artillery or attached air defence units.

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭rogber


    But wait everything the Russian press say is a lie, right? Especially trash like Pravda. So basically the opposite of all that stuff is true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 828 ✭✭✭Exiled Rebel




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,021 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    The Russian press is now carefully controlled and as such have to tow the state line. AKA not literally every single line is a "lie", but indeed it contains a lot of heavy propaganda and distorted reporting.

    If someone generalises it all as a lie, it is a bit strange to take that to a very literal level in response.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭yagan


    Even if he's well protected with a loyal guard he's still need an out if the general army turn on his regime. He'd probably flee to North Korea.



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