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Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭typhoony


    So out of 25k sold approx 5k regular dedicated Connacht supporters, a few thousand munster supporters which leaves probably 15k fair weather supporters and those that see it as a novelty event. Anyway hopefully some of those can be persuaded to go week in week out when the new clan stand is built



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭typhoony


    12k is about right, if we went for a 15k stadium a lot of URC games would be half empty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭typhoony


    I wonder how much the GAA are lining their pockets with, the tickets are great value so I wouldn't expect connacht rugby are earning much from it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭SqueakyKneecap


    I don't think it's as much as many might expect. Mayo Gaa (like many county boards) are under investigation by the Revenue over finances so it may be a reason why the idea only started gaining traction late last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Stand tickets are €25, terraces €20 and youth/pensioner also. If an average of €20 for 26,000 capacity then the income is €520k.

    For a sold out Connacht game at the Sportsgrounds with 6k capacity and an average of €30 a ticket that's €180k. That's €340k difference and whatever they're paying the GAA there's no doubt that Connacht are doing very well out of it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Away fans not the major consideration here, they'll only make up 10%-15% of the crowd and Connacht could have sold the entire 26,000 tickets with home fans alone. The ease of travel ain't true, Limerick is 2 hours away and Cork 3.5 hours. and it ain't GAA.

    The sponsor's names will be attached to the games on the road. With more publicity generated. The bulk of the games (almost all) will be at the Sportsgrounds. And you really don't think there'll be corporate hospitality at McHale Park? Where did you get that idea from, any accredited source?

    Rugby is huge in Mayo, several inspirational figures from there, an enormous number of kids coming through the youth ranks, and this is a chance for them to see a game on their doorstep. In my hometown of Ballina the intake for training has quadrupled in the last six years requiring several pals to take up coaching to cope with the numbers. Most of these youngsters can't travel to Galway with their parents on a Fri or Sat evening and then arrive home circa 11.30/12. They'll be present for the most atmospheric Connacht game since the Pro 12 final and it'll make them fans for life. We need more of this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Absolutely. This is almost three times the previous highest Connacht crowd of 9k in 2011.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,032 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    I'd have nothing against Connacht taking one home game a season around the province. Realistically I can't see more than that as they have spent a lot of money on redeveloping the Sportsground for a reason. Proper facilities, proper hospitality, etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 474 ✭✭CuriousCucumber


    Connacht have looked to ignore the home against Ulster in 2021 in the Aviva, where there was almost 10k at the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,057 ✭✭✭WallyGUFC


    40 odd million being spent on the Sportsground and some people think multiple games a season, including the biggest home games (interpros and potential Euro knockouts) will be routinely moved around the province? Not a hope. It's a great idea in the current circumstances and 1 or 2 lesser games per season (Zebre and a Challenge Cup group game) could make sense in future but the Sportsground is Connacht's home ground, will be new and shiny with a big title sponsor and will still have all the old selling points (close to town i.e. pubs, bus stop outside, 5 mins to bus/train station).

    Selling out MacHale Park is brilliant and surprising to me considering how poorly this season has gone but I'd imagine a lot of it is the novelty factor. If results continue on the current path, they'll be doing well to sell the 12k tickets for the new Sportsground, never mind any of the larger stadiums around the province.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    For starters any games at McHale Park or Pearse would help pay off the Sportsground debts. and to be fair the Galway stadium is a dump. There'll be some improvement, but nowhere near enough going by the blueprints.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Nowhere near enough. What were you expecting?. The sportsground isn't a dump and yes there be a huge improvement



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭SqueakyKneecap


    They meant Pearse Stadium I'd say. Dunno would I say McHale is lightyears ahead of Salthill though myself. Both the terraces are showing wear and tear but I will say that Castlebar has a fantastic clubhouse setup. Any stand with poles obstructing views is dinosaur stuff nowadays and although Salthill is miserable in the rain you won't get an obstructed view anywhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Ben Bailey


    Looking at the published plans the major additions to the Sportsground will be the HPC & admin facility with an enlarged spectator capacity on the north side of the pitch. Nothing planned for the College Road or Bohermore Road end 'terraces'. (Luckily I'm tall enough to stand on the College Road end and see all the action, but some kind of ramped terracing would be welcome).

    The Branch moving on site means all finals at all levels will be played at 'HQ', narrowing potential attendance to Galway city & environs - hardly 'spreading the game province wide'.

    The phrase 'vanity project' springs to mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,919 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I'm not 100% sure but I think both ends are being tidied up a bit,a wall being built around the college road end (from plans I've seen) probably about 4 or 5 steps of a terrace there only which is a shame.

    I think the new stadium plans are a bit underwhelming but I'll reserve judgement until I see the finished product.

    Will be interested to see if they have some sort of hospitality set up in Cbar.The clubhouse is huge and has two bars so I assume they might do something with that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭typhoony


    With the improving weather at the end of March you'd think that they might setup some sort of outside hospitality/entertainment considering the time of the kick-off will ensure it will be a family friendly atmosphere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    With dogs staying there wasn't going to be too much done at either end.

    Playing all finals in sportsground is a good thing. All underage cup finals are already played in sportsground. League finals were elsewhere. If more of those are no played in aportsground it's a good thing for connacht rugby not a negative. More kids and more adults with more junior finals being played in sportsground is better for connacht rugby. Kids getting to play finals on same pitch as cathal forde, Jack carty, etc is better for the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Ben Bailey


    If all junior finals are already played at Dexcom that doesn't represent an improvement. Mandating the playing of all club finals at Dexcom, instead of locally may not be that attractive to the supporters of some clubs. For example, Sligo RFC vs Buccaneers at Dexcom instead of Tuam or Roscommon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭AccidentallyOnside


    Only 3 Conn lads in the U20s is a bit disappointing.

    But massive congrats to Eanna McCarthy for being named captain. Can't remember a Connacht man ever being captain before?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭kita99


    3 connacht players is selected for U20 Ireland. LHP: Billy Bohan (191,114), FL: Bobby Power (192,106), No8:Eanna McCarthy ( 193,112 and captain). It's woderful. All of them shined at the interprovince A matches in Connacht Eagles at last autumn.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Cillian Gallagher (https://www.connachtrugby.ie/news/cillian-gallagher-to-captain-ireland-u20s-against-italy/bp62/) and Sean O'Brien (https://www.irishrugby.ie/2014/04/28/ireland-u-20-squad-named-for-junior-world-championship-3/), off the top of my head.

    Two incredible talents lost to injury.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Bryan Walsh and Tomas Farthing two other notable names from the 2005 group. Walsh doesn't seem to be pursuing pro rugby unfortunately, which is a shame given his rare athletic profile. Farthing is in the academy but didn't make the cut after being involved in training panels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,843 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Thete is no rugby pitch in Roscommon. Creggs is just over the Galway border. I'm sure they'd prefer it there with the choice of a natural pitch or 4g depending on the weather.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,596 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Carrick on Shannon in Leitrim to Galway is some hike for a final though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    The current Sportsground, with its mish-mash of stands, poor facilities and wide open ends at both College Road and Bohermore Road is indeed a dump. Even with the redevelopment it'll compare very badly to the other provincial stadia. It'll be superior to Pearse and other Connacht GAA stadia but that's no great achievement. It should be closer to the Kingspan (18k) capacity if we're to display greater ambition.

    For starters at the planning stage they should have got rid of the greyhound track. There'd be opposition for sure but that 'sport' is on its last legs and is near-empty most nights. There's no reason why the spectators should be so far back from the pitch for the rugby games. Without the track there could have been terrace development of the College Road end and even the Bohermore Road. It'll happen if the club becomes more successful so why do the upgrades in two phases rather than one? The new capacity will be sufficient for standard games but provincial ties and European knockouts merit a 15k/16k stadium. The lack of greyhound track would also make it easier to have Summer outdoor gigs and events there which could raise huge cash. A much more central venue for promoters than Pearse Stadium, Carnmore Airport or the Racecourse. And they'd not have to make any transport arrangements, shuttle buses, parking facilities, etc. One less headache for MCD, etc.

    There are many improvements of course but it ain't a stadium befitting of a team which has the possibility to challenge in both the URC and European competitions. We should be doing better.



  • Subscribers Posts: 43,378 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Ulster population = 2.2 million

    Connacht population = 0.6 million

    you dont need a "kingspan" type 18k stadium.

    The proposed 12k capacity is more than sufficient and a lofty goal for a province whos average attendance is generally in the 6k max bracket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Connacht doeent need an 18k capacity. You can't compare connacht to Ulster. Population is so much smaller out west.

    Connacht are not the primary tenants on main stand aide. That's greyhound racing ireland. So they couldn't just get rid of track unless you were to buy the dogs out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 862 ✭✭✭RonnieL


    The sportsground conversation has been had on here so many times. People have their opinions, largely based on their personal circumstances, and those opinions are not likely to change.

    In other news, JJ is available for Friday, along with Bundee and Finlay apparently. I assume we'll go full strength?

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/united-rugby-championship/2025/0114/1490740-hanrahan-set-to-return-in-major-boost-for-connacht/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭b.gud


    I certainly hope we go full strength, the URC has been a mixed bag but the challenge cup has been a positive this season and a win would give us favourable seeding for the knockouts so I think we should be viewing this as the most important game of our season so far



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    If 26,000 tickets can be sold for the Munster game then you can certainly sell the 15k/16k I suggested for the home games versus Leinster and Munster plus the more glamorous European games. But you're saying it's not viable and probably correct.

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