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Connacht Team Talk Thread VI - Some like it TOH

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    Next week now season defining, bonus point win guarantees top seed and potentially home run all the way to the final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭SqueakyKneecap


    That Conor Morris talks some guff. He was saying Connacht have nothing to play for next week but a BP win in Cardiff would setup a more favourable route to the business-end of the Challenge Cup.

    Great performance even if Lyon seemed to be all over the place. Murphy has a real Luke McGrath ability to be right place right time but has a much speedier presence at the ruck to get us moving. Bladey was a bit ponderous by comparison.

    Some great showings from Moose, Joyce, Bundee, Prender and Janssen too.

    They needed to bounce back and did. Need them to back it up next week again now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Pete Wilkins now safe for another season or so.

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Posts: 146 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The goal kicking was concerning. I know we won the game comfortably but leaving kickable points behind like that will cost us wins in other games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,843 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    We'll likely be on the same points as Montpelier if we get four points. How is the seeding worked out if that happens?

    Montpelier play Newcastle so it's highly likely they get five.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭fatgav


    correct me if I’m wrong, but there’s essentially no difference between first and second seed - you’re at home for all knockout games regardless. You play different teams, but either side of the draw could work out easier than the other (or not)


    with this in mind, Connacht need 2 match points in Cardiff next week to stave off Edinburgh who will likely get 5 match points against Black Lion.

    I believe points difference is the first tiebreaker and we’ve a decent but not insurmountable lead over Edinburgh there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭Wegians89


    Montpelier are on 14 points, Connacht on 15. Bonus point win would have them out in front



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 2025Connacht


    The challenge cup couldn't have fallen much better for us. We have to throw everything at next week's game. Newcastle 2 years ago was a disaster but this time we know a week in advance what is riding on this game so no excuses for anything but our strongest squad.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭AccidentallyOnside


    We knew in advance for Newcastle too, maybe not home semi but we knew we needed a win for home quarters.

    You gotta think both Montpellier and Edinburgh will both take 5 points, one bonus point might be enough but you'd imagine two would be the min. Better to just go out and win and remove all doubt. I'm guessing Bundee won't play next week, otherwise not idea why we kept him on for 80 even though he was playing well.

    Thought that was Santi's best game for us too, covered the back field well, looked more dangerous with ball in hand, and loved the bit of agro in the end with their winger, not sure what it was about but great that he we still up for it.

    I've always been a component of home comforts for a knockout game, but with the ways tickets have been going for the Munster game, if it was an option, you've gotta be looking at a GAA stadium for those knockout games. More access for fans from across the province, better chance to offer tickets at family friendly prices, bigger better atmosphere and more funds into the kitty. Plus it will make it more of an occasion which we really need at the moment; show the players there's more potential for this province than we're seeing at the moment.

    Edit: checked the EPCR website and points difference is indeed the way clubs on the same number of match points:

    "If two or more clubs are equal on match points, their ranking will be determined as follows:

    (i) the best aggregate points difference from the pool stage; or

    (ii) if equal, the number of tries scored in the pool stage; or

    (iii) if equal, by drawing lots."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,554 ✭✭✭✭cson


    Didn't Pearse Stadium get floodlights?

    But yeah definitely leaving money on the table for home knockouts if they stay at the Sportsground.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭Strand1970


    Tickets sold for munster game will be a big eye opener for Connacht. They will definently be analysing the potential profit for using gaa stadiums around the province. S



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭ElisaAtWar




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Why not? Selling 26,000 tickets is indicative of the demand out there if you take rugby on the road. There are four stadia of 19k capacity and upwards in the province so please explain why Connacht RFC won’t consider them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭niallm77


    Moving 2 or 3 games a season and selling 25000 v 8000 tickets is 51000 additional sales. Take away say 30-35% for costs and that's ~35000 x €30. That's €1,000,000 or more if it attracts extra sponsorship. It definitely will be something to look at



  • Posts: 146 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't buy the idea that filling a GAA stadium once indicates that we should move multiple games per season. Connacht v. Munster is by far the most saleable fixture of the season, particularly given how tight a fixture it might be. If that's multiple games a season the novelty of long drives to poorly serviced stadia wears off fairly fast. Connacht will also have a whole new set of corporate hospitality facilities quite soon with sponsorship deals, vendor contracts, and other arrangements that lock Connacht into playing every home game at the Dexcom.

    If Connacht have a big quarter or semi final this season we should look at moving it to a GAA stadium. We can enjoy the novelty and extra capacity now but it's not a long term thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    Connacht v Munster doesn’t outrank Connacht v Leinster or home knockout European games in terms of saleable fixtures.

    in terms of poorly serviced stadia, the newly refurbished McHale Park is a hell of a lot better than the current Sportsgrounds.

    Can you give an accredited source for any sponsorship deal or contract that ties Connacht into playing every game at the Sportsgrounds? You won’t be able to.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭Strand1970


    I reckon maybe 1 game a season around the province. Ulster game would sell out in Sligo pretty quick. But it has to make financial sense.I agree if there was more than 1 game a season it would lost the novelty factor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Ben Bailey


    Connacht is a province, not just a city, and it's future players & supporters are going to be key. Basing the club in the largest population centre works for Leinster (& probably Ulster) but notably not for Munster.

    The Sportsground / Dexcom will benefit from expansion & renewal, but since neither Connacht or the Greyhound racing board are owners, it seems like a poor investment model. It might seem like having a centre city venue might be a great idea, but for who ?. It won't have music events, as Thomond & Aviva have, to help pay for it.

    I'd have supported a joint venture (a la Donnybrook) where Galwegians & Corinthians had clubhouse / bar at opp ends of a main pitch with Connacht Rugby training / admin + dressing rooms & physio / rehab etc alongside in a max 12,000 capacity stadium. Allow for parking & shuttle services for games & events etc and everyone in rugby and Galway / Connacht benefit. Using state funding and local funding on the Sportsground is a mistake.

    Imo rotating the interprovincial games around bigger stadia is an absolute no brainer for the Branch.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    One out of 12/13 home games a season isn’t enough. It would be a failure to capitalise on an opportunity to garner much-needed funds. The sport is huge in Mayo and they should use McHale regularly. Pearse, Marciewicz and Hyde are other options for the future and not scheduling games there would display imaginative arrest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭niallm77


    Would it though?

    1 game in Sligo v Ulster

    1 in Castlebar v Leinster/Munster

    1 Euro knock out game in Pearse etc.

    An extra €1m a year potentially. Plus the added exposure and potential to grow interest out west is good for the IRFU so Connacht have a bargaining chip.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭Lost Ormond


    Connacht aren't going to move anything after new stadium is built. Masterchefs won't have signed up to run match day and non match day hospitality for one of the biggest and busiest games of year every year to be played elsewhere.

    Connacht being in the sportsgrounf is a no trainer. Corinthians and or wegians wouldn't be able to play out of sportsground. there simply isn't space for all they'd need.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,596 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Munster managed to play in 3 different stadiums in the province recently but for some in Connacht it's a no no. Odd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭SqueakyKneecap


    It's disappointing that a stadium redevelopment is what finally got Ruane and Co. to think outside the box. There was plenty of momentum between 2015-2018 to really capitalise on the jump in season tickets and overall interest. We didn't even get something like a Barbarians friendly or a lower tier international side travelling over for a warm-up.

    I'd have no issue with 2 or 3 games outside of Galway a year but so much money has been put into the redevelopment that I think we'd be doing well to have a couple of games a year outside of the Sportsground.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Ben Bailey


    Clearly I didn't outline my view properly. I'd prefer a developement that caters for Connacht Rugby, Galwegians and Corinthians on the same campus, not on the Sportsground site but on a site close to the city. The site of Galway Airport might have been an option, but ideally the site would have been amenable to hosting a mix of events which would better justify the expenditure of public monies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,739 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    I never mentioned moving from the Sportsgrounds. Not part of this discussion which is about them regularly going on the road. No issue for Munster, nor Leinster when switching between the Aviva & RDS.

    Masterchefs won’t be flexible enough to provide catering elsewhere then? Are you privy to their contract stipulations and the specific clauses?

    Great for the future of rugby in the province to goon the road, exciting for fans, and extremely lucrative.



  • Posts: 146 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Connacht v. Munster in Mayo is far more saleable to away fans. We're two provinces full of fans who grew up driving to GAA matches in awkward locations then driving straight home to our local pubs afterwards. It's great to see it as a one off but it's an awkward drive for the majority of fans to watch rugby from a low position on a huge pitch without many other upsides. Most Ulster fans have an awkward trip to Connacht at the best of times. It makes life much more awkward for most Leinster fans.

    Are you seriously suggesting that a stadium title sponsor would sign ten year deal and be want to see multiple major home games switched to another untitled location? Especially some of the biggest games of the season to a stadium with no corporate hospitality facilities?

    Connacht will be sign trying to turn matchday hospitality at the Sportsground into a big revenue stream with those big Interpro and European games as their major marketing tool.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,843 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    People are talking about needing bigger stadiums for big games. We need a bigger stadium for all games. I was castigated about a year ago for suggesting that they should look to build a new stadium on the outskirts of Galway.

    You'd have bigger crowds and easier access for everybody travelling and those numbers would increase because you can get tickets and also because you don't have to drive into Galway city.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭b.gud


    The match in MacHale Park is now sold out. Whatever about it happening again in the future or not this is great news



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