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So, what you playing at the mo? Retro Edition

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,260 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Very different games. The Gameboy one is closer to the original NES Batman game.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,260 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    On another note, I might brave Batman the animated series on gameboy, a Konami Batman game that is very good but also legendarily hard.

    It's infamous in my friends group as one of my friend broke his gameboy when he headbutt it in frustration playing this game.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,260 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Beat the two Sunsoft Batman games on Gameboy. Both feature incredibly tough and frustrating final fights against Joker.

    With world events yesterday I decided to install Return to Castle Wolfenstein last night for cathartic release. It's not aged well. I loved it on release but it's been surpassed by better games. It's kind of weird going back to this era of shooter and movement is incredibly fast.

    There's nothing really wrong with the game, there's some good level design as well. The feel of the guns however is just way off. A few months later Medal of Honor allied assault would arrive and really change how shooters felt. Saying that I also feel the earlier Half Life did gun feel an awful lot better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,405 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Cant beat the double barrel blast of the Spaz 12 in Half Life. An absolute joy in multiplayer when you nail someone with it. Still one of the best feeling shotguns in a game to this day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭Inviere


    I'm still playing through Black Mesa, and the right click with the shotgun is still just as epic in this remake 😎 I have to be near the end of the Surface Tension chapter now...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,405 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Been playing a lot of Blazing Chrome the last few nights. It really is a fantastic game. Such a good Contra Hard Corps homage it should nearly be a considered a sequel.

    Gameplay aside, the way the bosses are put together are so faithful to how bosses look in Hard Corps it's actually quite something.

    Would be amazing to see some kind of Megadrive port.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭Inviere


    And done.

    Really enjoyed it, and the Black Mesa remake is a worthy version of Half Life to play. The final Xen section has been completely overhauled, remade, and extended. It's a much longer, more fleshed out experience of Xen compared to the original game. Amazing work considering this wasn't really an official remake. I'll take a little break and then plan to hit Opposing Force…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,405 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    You picked the perfect time to play through it, have you seen the Half Life 2 Update that's been released for free on Steam for HL2's 20th anniversary?

    Just installing it now myself. Think I might play through Black Mesa first actually!

    Edit - really weird, I definitely played through Black Mesa before but it wasn't in my Steam Library. Do I remember correctly in that one of the first iterations of it didn't actually have the full game? I can remember playing through the first section but definitely not as far as anything Xen.

    Either way, it's under a fiver at the moment so no better time to nab a copy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Yep gonna grab that doc to watch.

    Indeed, Black Mesa was originally launched on early access, with Xen not included as it wasn't finished at the time. I can see why now, they've essentially remade the entire Xen section and expanded it far beyond the original version.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,260 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    They made xen fun



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭Colonel Panic


    I only finished the original HL using noclip because Xen sucked so much.

    Black Mesa was brilliant!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,480 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Started watching the documentary the other day, I've never played any Half Life games despite picking them up cheap for the Steam Deck last year. Must get stuck into them!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,573 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I will say Half Life 2 felt weirdly ‘off’ on Steam Deck to me. Even with a Valve pass it just didn’t really work on a controller vs a mouse and keyboard. Which is strange because I definitely played a good chunk of the Orange Box on 360 back in the day.

    Still one of the greatest games ever made and has aged extraordinarily well. But definitely try for mouse & keyboard if you can.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,405 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Got stuck into Turok 2 last night.

    I actually bought the cartridge in a lot of N64 games in Cash Converters on Thomas Street back when I was a broke college student, 20 years ago. I'm sure at the time I didn't think I'd wait till I was 40 till I got to playing it, but here we are!

    Assumed it was going to be a load of absolute jank - I was wrong. Very wrong. Okay I was right, but also wrong.

    It's certainly jank compared to all of the 60fps smooth FPS games that came after it.

    But!

    With the RAM expansion in, high res mode enabled and my N64 spittin' out RGB it looks absolutely fantastic for it's time. Particularly the enemies, they're super detailed and the animations when you shoot them are excellent. I could imagine have been blown away if I'd played this back in the day.

    I spent about an hour playing it last night which is fairly rare for me when it comes to N64 games. Really had a lot of fun doing so too. Was interesting getting used to non twin stick controls again. You can see how it's almost there with the buttons on the right being used for movement/strafing.

    Think I'll try to stick it out for another bit. I've read the levels are a bit over engineered. Certainly feels more like exploring a massive open plan area like OOT rather than the traditional levels in the first game.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,260 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I played the original turok through the night dive remaster and it was a lot better than reviews and opinions would have had me believe back in the day. It was a lot of fun. Turok 2 is an improvement in every way other than the framerate on N64.

    Most of the Turok team went on the for retro studios and worked on Metroid Prime.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,752 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    The original Turok, fog aside, was a good early FPS, polygon heavy rather than the Doom/Wolfenstein bitmap ones (or even AvP on the Jag Retr0!).

    The one thing that scuppered it a bit was the insistent platforming, which was hard to do when you can't see your feet!

    The second one was outstanding, and disgusting thanks to some of the creative weapons



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,405 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    That's really fascinating about the link to Metroid Prime.

    Yeah the platforming in the first game, Christ. It's right at the beginning too. You do a bit of fun shooting and before you know it are into first person platforming across a load of cliffs. Made extra annoying trying to do it with N64 controls.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    New-Tetris-4.jpg

    The New Tetris , it can be a pain to emulate properly , so actually found a copy of it , my housemate was obsessed with this so I played it A LOT back when it came out .



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,752 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Turok, plays well on the Xbox and PS5, with modern controls

    But the controls on the Switch version, a mildly remapped N64 effort, just awful.

    Spoils most if not all of the N64 titles on Switch, via the online service



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭Inviere


    Opposing Force finished. Very nice little expansion, hasn't quite got the polish and shine of the main game, but it's fun nonetheless. It feels essentially like an official mod, which I suppose, is exactly what it is. The final boss isn't much of a challenge though, same pattern, infinite health regen available too, but regardless, tis done.

    Onto Blue Shift next…



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,260 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I found the half life expansions a bit of a disappointment as the AI pathfinding really isn't as well defined in those campaigns as the main game. It's just way easier to bottle neck enemies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,817 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    A question for those of ye using Retrox on an Android phone. I've asked the developer and to his credit, he doesn't know a fix either and the best suggestion to date has been to revoke permissions and then reinstate. That didn't work.

    Neither has uninstall & reinstall oor going thru permissions 1 x 1.

    I'm running on HyperOS 1.0.12.0 and when I launch Retrox, I get the mode select screen, select phone then select my Google account as signed in account and then Retrox throws up the below error.

    Screenshot_2025-01-04-15-56-17-204_xtvapps.retrobox.v2~2.jpg

    My Google fu hasn't found any examples of this related to Retrox specifically so I'm a bit lost. Anyone any ideas?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    Did it ever work? Or did you get this the first time you tried to launch it?

    I think in Xiaomi phones there's another settings page for permissions.

    Settings > Permissions > Manage All Files Access

    Then find your app and double check permissions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,817 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    It worked prior to switching from MIUI to HyperOS. I've given that permission in part of my own effort at troubleshooting but no joy. Some of the Xiaomi permission settings are also somehow hidden in the privacy dashboard, a proper pain in the arse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    I'm an app developer by trade. Without seeing the code I'm just guessing.

    I'm assuming your MIUI version was based off an older android version and the HyperOS upgrade also updated the Android version. Recently Google have been acting the maggot with storage permissions. Since Android 10 they've added their new Scoped storage API, which developers have revolted against due to it breaking everything, and its now been made optional (thankfully). So then they moved back to the MediaStore method which can work with or without Scoped storage.

    Long and short of it is, HyperOS may have implemented something different than what the Retrox dev has implemented for storage.

    Maybe Retrox targets an older SDK (<10, 9 is popular! (Pie, API 28)) and there's some incompatibility with HyperOS.

    Really you need to see if its an app issue (ie the dev needs to fix it) or your device. Easiest way is to completely factory reset your phone and install again, but i doubt that's an option. See if you can find some other app permissions menus in the settings. Android moved the external storage permissions under "Photo and Video" recently so check the app has photo and video permissions, as that may cover it for older apps.

    Other than that, I'd need to see the app code to tell what's going on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,817 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Thanks for the great info, it's really appreciated. I'll pull a logcat from the error over the weekend for the developer and if you don't mind running an eye over it? I'll post it here too to at least get an opinion as to whether it's my end or the app?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    If you can pull a logcat of the error, then that would be helpful, but it would most likely mean the dev has to fix it.

    TBH I think thats the case anyway unless either:

    • you can show other people with the same phone and OS version who don't have the issue, or
    • the issue is that the HyperOS install broke permissions on your phone and/or you have to go into their own new control centre to grant permissions.

    I've used MIUI before but never HyperOS so, again, this is just guessing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,890 ✭✭✭dasdog


    I don't really play many games anymore but Grand Theft Auto - Vice City Stories caught my imagination over the December break and I'm nearly finished it. It's the overlooked game in the series and it's quite difficult esp compared to the walk through that was GTA V. Reminded me of the £3 Moving Shadow CD (ROM) 99.1 which was released in 2000. MSX FM from GTA3 is the source of that mad drum & bass.

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    I still buy second hand records from the now defunct Moving Shadow. Going to move on to Liberty City Stories after I'm done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,988 ✭✭✭Inviere


    And done. Very very short this one, about 3 hours I think (and that's a leisurely pace.) Enjoyable enough, but by now, the engine is showing its age, and the need for something a bit more complex is obvious. That's the original and the two PC expansions done. I could go on and play the PS2 expansion, Decay, which I've never played, but I'll plough on to Half Life 2 I think.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,270 ✭✭✭✭mrcheez


    GBA Advance Wars (again!)...so simple to pick up and play and works great on the Samsung Flip

    Brings back memories of the first time i played on the original yonks ago and was addicted then



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