Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

There must be something in the news that they don't want us focusing on and throwing out Greenland and Canada as pure disinformation.

From a purely Danish point of view I would find it very bothersome if the US tried to undermine the Greenland populaltion with promises of becoming part of the US, instigating referendums, etc….

Among friends that shouldn't happen.

Perhaps, but there are reasons why salt water is not used.

"To put it short, you can use salt water to put out a fire. This, however, comes with lots of undesired after-effects which are caused primarily by corrosive damage to firefighting equipment and also a strong negative impact on wildlife and the environment due to a large content of salt."

"Many parts of the water tanks and other equipment of firefighters are made from metals that corrode due to salt water.

Moreover, saltwater harms plant life. Salt can make an ecosystem completely barren for many years. That’s because the salt makes water less available to plants due to osmosis."

https://www.technology.org/how-and-why/can-salt-water-put-out-fire/

Seeing as this is a Donald Trump thread

I don't like the man I think he's a scumbag but sadly he turns out to have been right about this.

The excess brine will be dealt with as follows:

Saltwater is used

I never said it wasn't.

Read the article and you'll understand why it generally isn't.

Because they are all a little captain hindsight, most of the houses are old and not built in the best areas. That's all a bit obvious, there was a massive fire in Bel Air in the 1960's but still people didn't take the lesson (we are not great at foresight). And as for invoking Elon Musk, well ….. But to be honest I am really getting sick of what the internet has revealed people to be. Everyone is an expert on a topic, we are discussing something because a deranged moron threw out a load of nonsense. People are defending this nonsense, the true causes and failings that caused this fire won't be known for ages but something else will have popped up in the mean time that everyone will be an expert on, they won't take the time to read up to date information but they will remember that Newsom sacrificed LA for smelt, he won't make it rain and can't stop the Santa Ana winds.

Will the sentencing take place tomorrow or will his appointees in the SC try to stop it.

not blocking supposedly

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/trump-sentencing-block-appeals-merchan-supreme-court/6100516/

Thats pure nonsense though. America isn't the 'world's policeman'. America has started way more wars than any other country over the past 100 years. They're the dominant military force in the world, but that's the source of their power and wealth.

America going isolationist is going to see the end of the American Hegemony and their replacement by BRICS and the EU

I think who 'started' the most wars, let's say since 1900, is arguable. WWI - not America. WWII - not America. Vietnam - not America. Maybe Korea, Iraq 2 (GWB, not Desert Storm, that was Iraq invading Kuwait.)

Now, compare that to Russia, who invade everyone nearby at some point…. I think you can make the case that it's Russia that has started the most wars in the last 100 years.

Its been a while since I looked at this, but a few years ago I compared the interventions by the Soviets/Russia vs USA and came up with America intervening in at least 2 times as many international conflicts if not 3 times, and their interventions were often much more pro-active, while the soviets intervened to protect communist regimes from external threats, America went in and actively overthrew democracies or socialist leaning administrations, and installed puppet regimes many many times over the past 100 years.

Soviets invading parts of China in the early 20th century had nothing to do with propping up regimes. Invading Poland in 1939… well, again, not propping up a regime there. Or in Afghanistan (various invasions throughout the 20th century.)

Time period matters for this comparison.

The Canadair CL-415s and CL-215s water bombers used by the squadrons in the likes of Croatia, Greece, Spain a lot of the time fill up in sea.

There are shag all big lakes/reservoirs, especially in height of dry season, like in their home country of Canada.

Besides fires are often on islands or near coast. Just look at Greek fires.

But they would need to be washed out and cleaned a lot, just like maritime military aircraft are after being on sea or near sea for a period of time.

Of course some will give reasons why saltwater is bad for forests, etc but if choice is burn or salt contamination the latter is preferable, especially when lives, housing, etc are at stake.

Interesting thing is yanks don't really go in for amphibious water bombers like CLs or firebosses, but instead decide to convert massive commercial jets like 737s, DC10s and even a bloody 747 into a water bomber which often is loaded up with retardant. They always have to go big. 🙄

Big issue with them is turnaround time as they may only do a major drop every couple of hours or so.

Also firefighting tugs use seawater the whole time, so do major commercial ships.

Granted they aren't dropping it on a forest.

Maybe Trump's grand plan is to take all the ice on Greenland and use it to fight fires in future. 😁

Was it not the Jewish space lasers this time?