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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,031 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Probably. But who cares. There probably will be cases of red cities/towns defying the Presidential direction to fly their flags at full mast on the day.

    It's a safer bet that if Biden dies within the next 4 years, that Trump will not have a day of mourning or put flags to half mast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    And if that is the case, the same should happen when DT passes on. Can't have one set of rules for one side and a different set for the other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,049 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,031 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    You must not remember the differences in how the GOP viewed protocol around, say Supreme Court appointments when the foot the shoes were on changed.

    And the Dems just rolled over and let them. Last few years have shown us, the Dems talk the talk, but always bow to convention when the chips are down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭randomname2005


    I have, and the Dems need to develop some kind of backbone. It is all well and good being enlightened and turning the other cheek, but if you end up getting walked all over it doesn't do any good



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,739 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
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    Good. Delighted for. Hopefully he can not change it.

    It's a safer bet that if Biden dies within the next 4 years, that Trump will not have a day of mourning or put flags to half mast.

    He has to.make sure that does not happen for at least 5 years so. Hang in there Biden. While I do agree with some things he has done he has at least being a respectful and decent President unlike Trump was and will be.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭Rawr


    On a similar note. Any bets on him trying to address his infamous childish rant about crowd sizes on inauguration? Beyond sorting out anything related to Transition, and can fully expect Donnie using his time to push people to get as many MAGA cultists as possible to try to fill The Mall. He just has to try to beat Obama’s crowd.

    Even with that, I wouldn’t be surprised if his “best people” somehow fail there too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    And Trudeau resigns.

    All the people scoffing and laughing at Trump when he has the last laugh.

    It may not be pretty but its effective.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,555 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    What on earth makes you think Trump had anything to do with Trudeau resigning? Canada has its own internal politics that have nothing to do with the US and JT was never likely to lead them into the next election.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,923 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    What the hell are you sniffing? Trudeau resigning has absolutely nothing to do with Trump, nothing. How the hell does he have the last laugh?



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,653 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,710 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Trump is somehow responsible for Justin Trudeau resigning? 🤣

    Alternative facts are one thing. But living in an alternative universe is something else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    He's been leader for 9 years, attributing his departure to Trump is pretty big leap. I'd say the fact he hasn't attempted a coup is a step up from Trump by default.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,410 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 223 ✭✭Roald Dahl


    I take it as a source of considerable solace that Trump, when he would look at the likes of Justin Trudeau or, say, Mark Rutte or even Leo Varadkar, would become filled with incandescent fury and spite at their youth and vitality.

    If only the Russians could have engineered this level of interference twenty-five years ago!!! Woe is Li'l Ol' Donny Two Scoops!

    Many's the ketchup bottle was exploded against a wall and many's the nappy was rage-soiled because of it. No doubt about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,923 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Ever the moron, Trump AGAIN suggests that Canada be taken over by the states.

    His head is so far up his own hole, it would take multiple surgeries to fix.

    I’ve lived in Canada for 11 years now, I can tell you, with good confidence, they’ve no desire to merge with America, at all. They are probably more patriotic than the reddest of rednecked American.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭randd1


    Most redneck Americans hate America.

    Between the waving of the enemy confederate flag, the hating of the US federal government, the regular hatred towards so many different Americans. The only thing American that they actually like is the flag and the military ('cause guns).

    Patriotism for them is pretending owning a gun makes a revolutionary soldier that can conquer the world and saying you live in the greatest country in the world while knowing absolutely nothing about anything outside the US.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,923 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    And it’s nothing like Canada in that regard, would it mean that they’d get Canadas free healthcare as well and gun laws?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,653 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    They also despise actual Americans. Look at the reception of any policy that might tangibly make someone's life better and see your Christofascists lose their minds over it. Heck, they had to steal a four-letter word to express their hate for the concept of making things better for everyone.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭scottser


    Canada should have Jared Keeso write all the responses to the suggestion of a US takeover, ala Letterkenny:

    'Shut the **** up Donny, your mom gave me a handy in the mall the other day then got us both kicked out after I wiped myself down with the new top she bought. I'd call you a **** but you don't have the depth or warmth. Give your balls a tug, titfucker'.

    etc.

    etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,687 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Comment deleted.

    Mod note:

    warning issued. No more of this please

    Post edited by LambshankRedemption on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭Rawr


    The War of 1812 included an attempt by the US to take Canada by force. It didn't go well and the wider conflict resulted in British occupation of Detroit and a successful British capture & saking of Washington DC (including that one time an enemy managed to burn down the White House).

    Although 200 years later the one thing that remained constant is the Canadian sense of nationhood. Although they have much in common with their cousins to the South, they are distinctly their own thing and as you imply are quite proud of that. They would never choose to join the US. Doing so would only be a downgrade for them in nearly every measurable sense, not only to mention their European-style universal healthcare system, which they'd likely lose.

    The problem is that Donnie, in search of something within his skillset, has found the cabinet where they keep the crayons. Those he hasn't already eaten have been put to use colouring in parts of North America that aren't in the US.

    "Ooo…what if I'm the President they remember for filling in these spaces? Look at Greenland it's huuuge. They would love me bigly…with tears in their eyes….sir…"

    He could just try to be a good president? No…that seemed too stupid to even type… forget it…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,923 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    He really thinks he can acquire a country like a company. That’s how out of touch he is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    What the hell are you sniffing? Trudeau resigning has absolutely nothing to do with Trump, nothing. How the hell does he have the last laugh?

    Yes he is partly responsible for Trudeau resigning.

    Trudeau has been teetering on the edge for quite a while but Trump stoked it with his mocking of Trudeau as Governor of the 51st state.

    The threat to impose tariffs on Canadian goods to coerce action on border security caused Trudeau serious issues.

    Finance Minister and Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland resigned last month, after Freeland said Trudeau had tried to demote her, following a disagreement between the two over how Canada was handling the threat of tariffs by Trump.

    At one stroke, Trump was rid of Freeland, with whom he clashed when she led trade talks with the US in his first term, and damaged Trudeau, whom he obviously doesn’t like.

    So to say Trump had nothing to do with Trudeau's resignation is incorrect. Trudeau's time was numbered but Trump caused him to go sooner rather than later.

    Plenty of articles can be found about how Trump actions helped fracture the Liberals

    How Trump divided Trudeau and Freeland

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/17/trump-trudeau-chrystia-freeland-canada-00194783

    He really thinks he can acquire a country like a company. That’s how out of touch he is.

    Do you honestly believe Trump is serious when he talks about Canada becoming the 51st State ?

    Its merely a negotiating strategy to extract the best trade terms for the U.S, nothing more.

    "Prime Minister Trudeau is in political trouble at home, and I think that president-elect Trump is sensing the weakness," said Kogan in an interview with CBC News. "He smells blood." 

    Trump was right to smell blood.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,049 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    You think Tredaeu resigned because Trump wanted to make Canada the 51st State? Yet you then claim that Trump is not being serious when talking about it?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,653 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Trudeau's been on the backfoot for a long time. I'm surprised that he's lasted this long though it is tedious to see people trying to whitewash what Trump said. I'm not looking forward to another 4 years of this.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I neither said or implied that Trudeau resigned because Trump wanted to make Canada the 51st State and you very well know that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,049 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Yes he is partly responsible for Trudeau resigning.

    Do you honestly believe Trump is serious when he talks about Canada becoming the 51st State ?

    Its merely a negotiating strategy to extract the best trade terms for the U.S, nothing more.

    Its right there in your post. You think Trump is a reason for him stepping down, the pressure about tariffs and the 51st state got too much. Then you accept that, like almost everything Trump says, its all nonsense and he (Trump) has both no intention, but even moreso no idea, how he would carry through on this 'negotiating position'

    What always gets me is that Trump supporters are always so quick to ascribe Trump to anything they see as good, and absolve Trump of any blame if things don't work. Trudeau won reelection while Trump was previously in office, but I never heard any Trump supporter claim that was Trump's fault.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I can easily imagine Trudeau being so very sick of having to deal with Trump from last time, that the idea of giving that pleasure to a potential Conservative Party PM may have been very tempting.

    Again I need to remind everyone that Donnie doesn't have a strategy or a policy or even a plan beyond whatever soundbytes catches his fancy or whatever will enrich or flatter him. If Trump has succeeded in doing anything in world politics its in making people sick of him.

    The last 4 years with him were looooong, and likely these next 4 will also be. After 10 years in a usually difficult job I can easily imagine someone wanting to bow out rather than having to deal with that absolute child of a man again.

    "Centrists" should note, this isn't some kind of master stroke by Donnie that I'm referring to, but instead the fact that your guy is such a dreg on humanity that few people worth their salt even want to be in the same room as him.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,989 ✭✭✭tinytobe


    I am a Canadian citizen, also living prolonged times overseas, in many different countries. There have been times that the intention to return to Canada was rather unrealistic as well.

    Canada as the 51st state of the US would bother me very much, as Canadians would then be treated as US-Americans and subject to FATCA, - meang that we would have to decare taxes of all assets to the US-American IRS, no matter if we're absent from the country or not. It's also been reported that US citizens were denied bank accounts by certain banks when resident in foreign countries as US-American expats.

    Canada as a possible part of the US would have FATCA as a major downside.

    It's possible that Trump will exercise all sorts of taxes as a form of blackmail to achieve his means, whether it's about Greenland or Canada.

    It's unrealistic that either Greenland or Canada is ever "up for sale", but blackmail in form of taxes might change the political climate in either country.



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