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URC 2024/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭Dillonb3


    Sharks beating Stormers but 2 more of their Springboks picked up injuries - Fassi and Esterhuizen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,600 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    3-7 to Glasgow

    Penalty try scored in the 68th minute and a yellow card to Edinburgh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,600 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Edinburgh immediately reply!

    Contest their restart and pilfer the ball from Glasgow. Schoemann of all people puts in a grubber kick to a wing to regather then a few phases later he's the one to score the try. Ben Healy makes the conversion.

    No trys for 69 minutes then two are scored in 90 seconds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,869 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    3 URC games at 3pm and now a wait until 7.35pm….

    terrible use of this time of the year, when people are bored with families.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,600 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Edinburgh with the big upset victory over Glasgow. They were humiliated last weekend, but were far more physical and disciplined this time around. Didn't allow Glasgow easy possession or territory and gave them crap ball to attack from

    Didn't overcommit in defence when the Warriors backs tried their pull back sweeps from side to side. Kept a full defensive line at all times and the Glasgow backs couldn't find a way around them. They were a bit like Ireland in the recent November internationals. Tried too much to stick to their passing patterns and didn't play to win contact first.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,600 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    I really hope this clear out is cited. Tom O'Toole was sent if for a similar incident last weekend and if anything this one is worse. It's the kind of challenge that can end a career. At best it's reckless to the safety of the poacher and at worst it's a deliberate targeting of an exposed limb.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Fender (Ospreys No 5) red carded for a croc roll, again all his weight on the exposed leg of the Cardiff player.

    Cardiff 5 YC now for team indiscipline



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Ben Bailey


    Generally poor discipline by both sides. Pity, New Year's Day Derby is a big game for the supporters.

    Think the officials have gone pretty well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Ben Bailey


    Scarlets take all 5 points from their derby vs Dragons. Up to 6th in URC.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,831 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    From 13th. Only 8 points separating 4 from 14th. Very tight in the middle of the table.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Scarlets have to play away Ulster & Munster, host Leinster and a trip to SA. The fight for the bottom 4 of the top eight will be tight.



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,308 Mod ✭✭✭✭icdg


    There’s no fixtures in the URC this weekend (PRL and Top 14 are both playing, though) so the league takes a long back seat just as we reach the half way point. It’ll be back, briefly, for the weekend of 26-28th Jan, then two weeks off again for the first two Six Nations weekends before retuning briefly again on the 14th-16th Feb and the second M6N gap week on 28th Feb-2nd Mar, before another three week gap to 21st-23rd Mar.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,831 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    6 week ban for Tom O'Toole for his red card against Munster.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭phog


    I think that's harsh, it was a dangerous clearout and WR seem to want to stamp them out but 6 weeks seems to be a long ban and one we don't see too often for head to head contact which in my opinion may have a longer lasting affect on the inured player.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭niallm77


    That's outrageous when you consider what Latu got away with on saturday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,357 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Four new rules now in place in the URC as part of ongoing trials:

    60-second conversion limit (to match penalties).

    30-second setup time for line-outs.

    Play on for uncontested line-outs if the throw is crooked.

    Scrum-half protection during scrums, rucks and mauls.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,831 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Not just the URC. Those law changes have been brought in world wide from Jan 1st.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    When will Nankivell be available again after the hamstring injury he sustained from the TOT red card incident?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,861 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 579 ✭✭✭bingobango12


    Glad to see that ban. Although was likely unintentional by O'Toole, those clear outs are horrible. Hopefully Latu will get double that for what looked like an intentional targeting of the knee on the Toulouse player.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,357 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Cleaner play at set piece

    Rationale: Protect the 9 to enable more ball in flow from base of ruck, maul and scrum

    Ruck: New 15.18

    15.18: A player who is, or was part of the ruck may not play an opponent who is near it (within 1m), and who is attempting to play the ball away 
    Sanction: Penalty 
    (Current 15.18-19 renumbered) 

    Maul: New 16.18 

    16.18: A player who is, or was part of the maul may not play an opponent near it (within 1m), and who is attempting to play the ball away.  Sanction: Penalty

    Scrum: 9 stays at tunnel

    19.30a Once play in the scrum begins, the scrum-half of the team not in possession:
    a. Takes up a position near the scrum, no further than the centre line of the tunnel.

    (The line 'No further than the centre line of the tunnel' is the new rule here)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,861 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    So does that include slapping the SH arm as he goes to pass then? How will they adjudicate a genuine counter ruck that involves a SH from "playing the 9"?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    I do not care for the scrum change.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Ben Bailey


    The primary intention of the Law change is to outlaw the 'slapping' the 9's arm.

    Counter rucking should remain unaffected by these changes, provided players don't impede the 9 as they attempt to play the ball away from the breakdown. It may prove contentious in practice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 267 ✭✭darkened_scrum


    I've no problem with the scrum change. Some SHs absolutely take the piss these days, going beyond the ball, hassling the SH of the team in possession while the ball is still in, and none of it gets picked up.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,528 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    This is an enforcement issue though. Allowing a scrum half unfettered access to the ball at the base is a boon for weak scrums anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,654 ✭✭✭50HX


    Exactly, enforce the rules that are present already



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,861 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    I don't see why slapping the arm is an issue, if the ball is lifted the ruck or maul is over and the SH is fair game. Seems a law for the sake of it, rather than a serious issue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭phog


    No idea and watching the game I was screaming for the ref to give us a penalty for that illegal entry, the ref waved play on until the TMO called his attention to it but you can't ban a player based on how long a player could be out injured. It could lead to a blood gate type injury to have an opposition player banned for a long period.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Ben Bailey




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