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1st January 2025 - 8th January Snow Potential, Freezing Conditions - Discussion

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    Snow doesn't normally bother me but picked up a new car an it doesn't have all season tyres

    . Might have to work from home 🤔

    My weather

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭John.Icy


    Aye the the GFS was rather poor, a snow to rain to snow for a lot of favoured areas (south midlands for e.g.) previously in hotspots. Things look better elsewhere though, so not point focusing on it just yet as Kermit says.

    Twists and turns to come. All part of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 Portweather


    does anyone remember 10cm of snow being forecast in I think January 2010 I could be wrong on that date but it was around then, and it never came to pass. The radar showed the precipitation but it didn’t hit the ground?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭John.Icy


    Yeah there was a frontal event around the 10th or 11th or so that was meant to deliver for much of the southern half of the country IIRC. Didn't make it that far north at all, all it served to do was interrupt the Irish sea action hammering much of Dulbin, Kildare, Meath etc. We ended up with drizzle here in south Kildare. I recall the likes of Waterford got a good dump out of that one still. Lots of radar quirks as you said.

    There was a second frontal push maybe the 12th? That dropped around 5-10cm though in my parts. Was the end of it then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 802 ✭✭✭davidsr20


    I wonder will east Galway still do ok we’re all excited.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭mumo3


    Happy new year folks!! Things starting to (dare I say it) get exciting.

    We are a couple of days out yet and already, reading this my nerves aren't able for this roller coaster. There are a couple of posters in the weather thread that I look forward to see posting in these events and I'd nearly take their words as gospel, but jesus (and I know I'll be hammered for this comment) the amount of negative feckers, with their I doubt such a place or such a place will see anything. Please I'm begging just let me live in the moment of a high possibility, its the little things in life and I'm living for this little bit of Joy. Positive thoughts people, positive thoughts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭Lucreto


    I have friends coming over on Saturday afternoon and won't be leaving until around 10pm. I am in Naas.

    I have to wait for met eireann to give more detailed warnings before I can recommend cancelling.

    Then getting to work will be interesting on Monday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,346 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    yeah, 10 Jan. It stalled over Cork leading to, er, contrasting emotions on here! It was the first snow in Cork since 2004, snd first proper snow since 2000 or arguably 1997, so in the intervening period if you had had a bingo card for “Cork snow shield”….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,830 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    BBC weather graphic - line from roughly Clare/Galway border up to lough neagh. Everywhere south of that line 20 to 40cm of snow. It’s increasing likely I’ll sadly miss out by the looks of it but hoping for a good event for everyone south of here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    Unless there is a southward move of that system, I think a lot of people south of a line from Galway to Dublin (apart from high ground) will see rain or sleet until the system starts to pull away (back edge snowfall). The upper air temperatures are simply far too warm.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭torres9kop


    is this a downgrade?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    It depends on what you have been reading. 48 hours is a long time in forecasting terms but right now, inland Connacht, inland north Leinster and Ulster are best placed to see accumulating snow.

    Previously, the system pulled away on Sunday from northwest to southeast which allowed a much better draw of cold air in behind it i.e. any rain turned to snow more steadily. Now it pulls away west to east i.e. air is less cold as it pulls away.

    Meanwhile, a view of Ireland from space at lunchtime today with snow visible on the ground in parts of Donegal and Tyrone, as well as on some mountain tops. Extensive snow cover across parts of Scotland.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,841 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    When prolonged cold spell beforehand might coastal effect not be as pronounced ?

    I remember massive snowdrifts late Dec'81 / Jan'82 all over Cork and Tipperary ,for a week to 10 days , and again of shorter duration but just as heavy in Jan '84 . Latter blizzard( it was ! ) had us snowed in in Mitchelstiown . Nothing for it but a lockdown in a pub until we could drive back to Cork .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 836 ✭✭✭bazlers


    I think this is a very valid point. Could be all very sloppy and miserable. Im North east Offaly just at the Kildare border so not too badly placed but its looking like wet snow to sleet to wet snow sort of carry on. Obviously hopeing whiteout conditions for everyone but advancing low pressure from the Atlantic need every box ticked to the highest level for even a faint opportunity of success.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Be very surprised if that happens. Expect any snow to be further north of Clare and Tipp. Anyway we'll see what evening weather models bring.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,406 ✭✭✭lucalux


    This is the kind of scientific logic I am here for.

    Never fails!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭Ros4Sam24


    I think no matter what journey the low takes the commute to work/school will be treacherous next week. Whatever be it rain sleet snow will freeze hard. Could double the length of time to travel on roads



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭ClimateObserver


    Evaporative cooling will surely assist. It's heavy precipitation that's coming in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    No amount of evaporative cooling can negate 850hPas of +4c. Maybe 0c or -1c at most. This reading is for North Tipperary (Nenagh to be exact)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,805 ✭✭✭Rougies


    Not really, just wobbles in the track of the low from run to run. Still looking likely that large areas of the country will get significant snowfall late Sat into Sunday, but too early to tell where exactly.



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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,683 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Simialr to @Calibos I got a flat tyre the morning of Christmas day. Trying to get specific tyres for my car, I have my all season/off road/specialist snow and ice tyre. Have had them on 3 years and haven't had any joy in using them. Now as the snow moves, I can't use them as I'm down a tyre.

    Typical sods law kicking in



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,144 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    My call is that Cork will get nothing out of this but rain. These systems almost always are slightly further north and slightly further east than expected. That will pull temps slightly higher across the south coast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 836 ✭✭✭bazlers


    Just came across a very good post from John Holmes on Netweather. Very interesting.

    Thursday 2 January 2025(1435)

    Once more to look at the latest issue of the 500mb anomalies.

    On the 6-10 most contours over the UK belong to the very fast flowing air running round the bottom of the main trough centred about over Newfoundland. Not warm by any means but with no input from Arctic regions. It is not that different with the 8-14 output in origin. Some warming compared to the 6-10 which is ‘perhaps’ a slight sign of changes down the next few days. Time will tell.

    Looking at the UK Met raw output for the 3 days 6-8 January. You may remember that I noted that on all 3 days the 500 flow came from a northerly point on each chart. The latest 3 shows the first two doing similar but by day 3 (8 January) it originates from the Atlantic. Even the first two days enter the chart from a less northerly point than previously. Overall  the 500 pattern shows a tendency to back towards a more westerly flow. To me it does suggest that the first real signs of a lessening of the upper cold is tentatively starting? The surface flow does, just, keep the two troughs separate.

    Not what most folk will want to read but I think there is a slight movement with both sets of charts to something a bit less cold in the 3-6 day period. What I’m not sure of is how much longer beyond that date. The anomaly charts in the 8-14 period do not suggest a rampant Atlantic but neither suggest any really deep cold from any direction. So it is sitting on the fence time for me as to what happens after this weekend.

    I don’t normally make comment about the surface in here but I believe that the main surface low is going to be the major player with milder air extending well north. By Sunday we will all know if that is right or wrong.

    Makes a very valid point but still not over yet. Think a more southerly approach on the low would do no harm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    cm? Ireland would grind to a halt. Don't you mean mm?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,841 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    I remember -14 degrees that January . Queuing for water from water trucks in the shutoff afterwards because so many burst main pipes being fixed . Not nice .But hopefully Irish Water have all that under control by now ?😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭mumo3


    Im starting to get a bit disheartened now with all the talk over RTE…. Met Eireann are the equivalent of seeing a magpie, as soon as they keep going on about big weather events you know its going to be disappointing!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭WolfeEire
    Clare (430ft asl)


    ICON is a little further north again resulting in a largely cold rain/sleet event on Saturday but increasingly turning to snow on high ground (mostly) in the middle third of Ireland from early Sunday morning. Where there was once a much colder pool of air over Ireland a few days ago has become watered down into marginal territory, thereby reducing the snow risk for many. The precip clears Ireland on Sunday night.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 836 ✭✭✭bazlers


    So a big ol slush puppy.. : ) go South Low you swine! By the way if it does come to pass and it delivers the goods what name will be given to this? Emma Eile? ; )



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    Arpege keeps everything much further South than Icon. Heavy snow, just for Cork

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭munsterlegend




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