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Part time farming - Time saving techniques

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭Who2


    part time farming requires a lot of things to work well. Fencing and gates need to be good, housing and handling facilities right and then utilising all the time right on the other things. If it’s sucklers matching the cow and bull correctly is very important feeding the right way and the little things to work. One big dopey calf will take up more time than looking after forty other ones on an average day. You need the tractor to start when you get up on it and use contractors where possible. There are a lot of part timers that buy second hand poor machinery and spend days servicing and fixing them to use them for a day or two in summer thinking that they are saving themselves a fortune, unless you enjoy it stay away from it.

    The meal bin is a massive time saver but I know a lot of people that love going into the co op mainly for the craic. It would be sad to see that completely disappear too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭visatorro


    I know there's other threads on the portable meal bins but I still reckon your better off with a bin. You'll stoop down into those portable bins and pull a bucket of meal out of them. Not great on the back. I know carting buckets of meal to outfarms etc isn't ideal but a better job imv. You can get 2-3 tonne blown in and forget about it then for a couple of months of your not feeding much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭limo_100


    I much cheaper is it to get meal blown in from a mill? Say I’m getting a weanling nut at 360 a tonne would it be 330 blown?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Local mill is about 15-20/ton more blown in vs collection in bulk. Unless you have a suitable shed to tip it in and less than 3 mile from the mill it's a no brainer. Small bags are a licence to burn hard earned profit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Stationmaster


    There was a lad at the ploughing that had a one of those plastic 700/800kg meal bins that tipped over to slightly at the end to make it easy get the last few bits at the bottom - anyone know the name please?



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    https://www.megafab.ie/the-tipsy-bin-meal-feed-transport

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭visatorro


    i have one. your still stooping into it to get the meal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,744 ✭✭✭893bet


    it’s a fine bin. The tilt thing is a waste of time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭limo_100


    have the Jfc one it’s tips over aswel when it’s empty enough. Also think it holds more than the tipsy bin. Slightly anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Better off with more space at the angle piece and have access for another 100kg of feed.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭WoozieWu


    my cameras have probably saved the most time and money here

    lots of gaps in paddocks too has made grazing easier to plan out

    one thing i have seen over time is the payback in minerals given to cattle



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭cuculainn


    What form do the minerals take? Licks? Do you give during winter or all year round?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,209 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Very unusable that a mill would be that difference between collection and delivery. That indicates a 50-60 euro charge for a 3 ton delivery.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭SodiumCooled


    We just fill with a scoop out of the bin, we measure by the scoop anyway when feeding e.g. this group gets 15 scoops so count it out every time and into bags. Pulling a bucket out of the bin would be a killer on the back for sure.

    The silo would be grand in the winter but we give meal to stores all summer and we move the bin around with them which is so handy, especially as I often walk to do the herding (as it’s better for the bit of exercise) so bringing meal from the yard would mean bringing the tractor every day and take longer with opening gates and electric fences.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    That would be collection of a large quantity loose into a tipper trailer of at least 5-6 ton. Blower lorries don't run on fresh air. €50-60 for a drop with a lorry is not bad in the current climate when you consider diesel, wages, wear and tear and running a donkey engine at full tilt for the duration of the blow.

    Mills in the area have a good tradition of farmers hauling away full grain trailers of feed. One local quarry owner/beef / dairy farmer would have his tipper truck bring a load of straights after tipping a load of sand for backhaul



  • Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭WoozieWu


    started with licks now use bolus, liquid or sprinkle on feed depending on the animals need and time of year

    you cant guarantee every animal is getting enough with licks and we have cows who wont eat pre calving minerals but there are plenty of options out there

    a quick chat with your vet when testing should let you know what ingredients they recommend for your area

    cows get a bolus for grass tetany and liquid top up for breeding

    finishing stock get minerals on top of feed

    breeding heifers get liquid pre breeding

    cows and in calf heifers get pre calving minerals

    calves will get a liquid shot by the time they are a couple of months old



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭Omallep2


    Anyone here try Multimen injection. It comes recommended by the vet and seems to be the business. Pre calving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,209 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Use multi min during the summer on stores or yearlings. Stores not going for finish before mid summer get it 4-6 weeks after turn out. Yearlings the same with a second shot later in the summer. Anything bought in before September gets a shot unless the bottle is empty. However I do not think it's as good as bagged minerals. I used bagged minerals during the winter. Feeding about 66-7kgs per days at present to about 100 stores and weanling and about 3-4 kgs of limestone flour.

    Post edited by Bass Reeves on

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭Who2


    I’ve mineral blocks/ salt lick types in every pen all winter. I’ve a couple mounted on the creep feeders from July on on and in between there will be a couple of garlic bucket licks dropped around the paddocks.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,835 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    I'm not sure where you are, but if it's the same lad you're talking about it's a full lorry load of meal every day during the winter.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭kk.man


    I've 2 jfc's and a five ton meal bin. Jfc grand for sheep or finishing cattle in small numbers but when pressure is on finishing 50 plus cattle it's the meal bin. Between yokeing up the trailer, waiting to be weighed etc and the drive to and from I'd gladly pay the extra. Nice feeling filling the jfc on a Sunday or evening after work in your own yard on tap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,209 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    If collecting even middling quanties( 3+ ton) you need somewhere to tip store it. It needs to be bird/ vermin proof and you need to be able to tip a trailer into it. Collecting ration is not the end of the matter.

    When̈ I first started farming I use to buy bags and had them stored in bins. I was throwing the bags in an old house. I drove into tge old yard one dark night to a few rats scurrying around. I lad to poison them and get a bin for the bags as well.

    I can only imagine the problem if tipping straights or lorry loads of ration into a non vermin proof shed. Even at that I doubt if you bargained that there would be a 15-20 euro charge for loads over 6-10T especially if you were within 5-7 miles of a miller. There is no way they are charging 1-200 euro for deliveries of quanties.

    Often it's lads inability to bargain and source product. As well most ofvtge discussion here has been small sub 1 ton bins V a fixed bin. The fixed bin wins all the time

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,103 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    It would be the same man and a load of straights at least/day and rotates every month between 3 mills to keep them on their toes.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,479 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    After watching Farmer Phil the past few weeks messing around with bales trying to feed those weanling s in the new shed, I m more a d more convinced bales should be almost banned.half joking as most silage around here is baled but the amount of fluttering around that goes on with bales is frightening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    Yeah them yolks are over complicating a simple job. wouldn’t he be better put up barriers and throw in a load of bales on their ends and come back in a few days and push in what’s left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,298 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Whatever loader or tractor you fodder with, having a spare front and back wheel sitting there pumped and ready to swop onto the machine is great.

    It's always the day you're under pressure that you find a wheel flat, and nowhere open to fix it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    @Nekarsulm yes a wee 100lt compressor is a blessing & a curse around a yard. It's great to get you going when in a hurry and get a flat wheel.

    But I often find myself not getting a slow puncture fixed as soon as I should because of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭kk.man


    V true. Everyone kinda has to own one now, not many garages around here supply air let alone free air anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 172 ✭✭V6400


    What liquid pre breeding minerals are you using for the heifers?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭WoozieWu


    Post edited by WoozieWu on


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