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Nosferatu (Robert Eggers)

  • 24-06-2024 04:34PM
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    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭


    First trailer appeared for Eggers' lates since The Northman. I'm down for anything he makes and this looks like a potentially great adaptation.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    I'm definitely down for this too. Hoping the sight of Skarsgard as Orlok is worth the wait!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I love how The Northman became this huge digital hit, after the various wails of despair over its failure at the box office.

    The real question is: will there be a spongebob cameo?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Enjoyed his previous works but never got to see any of them in the cinema. Will be making the trek for this one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    First poster for it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    It's been rated R in the States and debuts on December 25th there.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    I was hoping this would be a Christmas flick for me to enjoy but I can see it's a January release here. Ah well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 946 ✭✭✭El Duda




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,970 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    Hyped for this! I was sorry I didn't get to see The Northman on the big screen. I watched the JoBlo and Chris Stuckman reviews last night and they were full of praise for this. So will have to go and see this in the local multiplex come January although it's probably going to get some secondary smaller screen like Longlegs did.

    It's been a good year overall for Horror👍



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Didn't Chris Stuckman say it's not a typical horror? Another review I watched also mentioned it's almost like a dark fantasy instead of pure horror.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    That is a weird collection of reviews. How reputable is Roger Ebert's review team these days? It's great to see that the film is playing well with the populist outlets but also concerning that the Brits don't seem to think anything special about it.



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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    IMO the individual reviewer is more relevant than the outlet - e.g. I don't tend to bother with the Graun for film because I find their coverage inconsistent and lacking the depth I'd like; Bradshaw can be good at times but is maddeningly inconsistent for me. As far as UK reviews are concerned, Mark Kermode, Kim Newman and Anton Bitel are the names that first come to mind as reviewers whose opinions would count to me (Edit) specifically for a film like this where an appetite for, and familiarity with the history of, horror will make a notable difference to the substance of the review.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭corkie


    In cinema here new years day!

    Unlike 'War of the Rohirrim' which I was waiting for since 21!

    I had not heard of this film been in production. But guess have been waiting most my life for a remake of the silent classic:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nosferatu

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    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Just out from a screening of this, and first thoughts are that it's good, with some stunning cinematography, but a bit over-stuffed and unevenly paced - honestly for its running time the first hour felt very slow, and I think part of this was trying to bring in more of Dracula proper to the story. (There are a few jump scares littered through that feel jarringly out of place to me, as if someone didn't have confidence that the film was creepy enough and thought that shouting "boo" once in a while would somebow improve things). I did enjoy the mounting dread in the 2nd hour, and

    the expanded focus on the plague in Wisborg/Nosferatu's reign of terror

    was a solid addition to the overall narrative. The performances were mostly very good, although I'm not entirely sure Lily-Rose Depp was the best choice for that role.
    It bears repeating that the film looked stunning and I'm glad I caught it on the big screen.
    I expect that, once it's released for home audiences, someone will figure out what bits to trim out to make something with a better pace and bring out the best of what's there.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭corkie


    Good box office attendance!

    Have my ticket booked for the 1st in blackpool.thereelpicture.com!

    @Fysh You must be abroad somewhere, to have seen it already?

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,596 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I liked it. Its biggest problem is the one you could have predicted before seeing it: there have been a lot of cinematic adaptations of this story, and another one will inevitably seem familiar. You’re dealing not only with the plethora of Dracula adaptations, but two canonical Nosferatu films too. Herzog and Murnau both delivered legendary films, and Eggers’ take is entirely faithful to the source materials.

    But he’s also a damn fine filmmaker, so even if this is yet another take on the Dracula story, it is an incredibly handsomely staged one. And the visual identity, to its credit, doesn’t feel derivative of what came before. The use of shadows and light is integral to any Dracula adaptation, and Eggers’ use of both is fresh and interesting throughout.

    If there’s anything else he adds it’s dialling up the sexuality of what was already a highly sexualised story. And it’s also surprisingly funny at times - Dafoe in particular is a riot, delivering his ludicrously flowery lines with utter conviction in a way that earns quite a few laughs. Also credit is definitely due to Lily Rose Depp, who Eggers wisely makes the centre of the drama.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭corkie


    Enjoy the film, what I found jarring was the abrupt transition from different scenes.

    It is a pity the 'Nosferatu'/'Count Orlok' lore is so poor compared to 'Dracula' lore. So to label it as another 'Dracula' film is weak. It stands on it own merits and mistaken to think of it as a vampire film.

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,812 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    Saw this today. Thought it was brilliant. Maybe a bit more jump scarey than I expected based on Eggers previous films but the guy is gifted at conveying utter dread through his films, always has me so tense.

    The cinematography is top notch as expected. Particularly enjoyed Orlok’s hands shadow cast over the city and when the horse carriage arrives before Thomas at the foot of the castle under the moonlight.

    Not sure how to spoiler on new boards but the sounds of a few particular scenes had my toes curling.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    The visuals of the film are spectacular, and I'm looking forward to watching it again at some point (I'm not sure it's a 2-cinema-viewings film for me, but it's definitely one I'll watch again).

    One thing that I forgot to mention in my previous post - Bill Skarsgård's turn as the Count is generally very good, particularly in the latter half of the film. But in the earlier parts, his accent reminded me of

    Nandor from the TV version of What We Do In The Shadows

    which rather undermines the effect a bit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,702 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Saw this in the IFI last night. As others have said, it's a beautifully shot film, but if you've seen or read Dracula, it's not really bringing anything new to the table.

    Also, I don't know if it was just the IFI or the actual sound mix of the film, but I found the sound all over the place. Struggled to hear the dialogue in some places, but was absolutely deafened in others, particularly the climax of the final scene.

    And as with pretty much every film these days, it was too long.

    Overall, I can't say I'd particularly recommend it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,596 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    1922’s Nosferatu (which this faithfully adapts) was so close to Dracula that Bram Stoker’s estate successfully sued the production company and the court ordered all copies destroyed (it’s a cinematic miracle it survived). This film has a ‘based on…’ Dracula credit. Much of the plot and iconography is directly ripped from Stoker’s novel. So yes, I think encompassing ‘Dracula’ in any critique of it - positive or negative - seems perfectly reasonable.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭corkie


    @johnny_ultimate Aware of the history of it! I linked to the wiki in an earlier post!

    It may be a rip-off of 'dracula', but has subtle differences that make it stand out on it's own.

    Here is the original silent version if any wants to compare the two: -

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭p to the e


    First film of 2025 for me and I've probably already hit on my most disappointing. I was really hyped for this and the trailer hyped me up to hype level 11 on the hypeness scale of hype.

    The first 30-40 minutes really had me thinking this could possibly be a masterpiece but it just seemed to fall flat after that. As others have said it's another adaptation of Dracula so I felt I spent a lot of time just comparing it to Francis Ford Coppola's version which, in my opinion, deserves more kudos due to the commitment to practical effects.

    I thought Hoult and Rose-Depp were quite good but I've no idea what movie set Taylor-Johnson thought he was on because he was abysmal in this. Giving Count Orlock a moustache was certainly a choice and his inconsistent over-exaggerated wheeze just bugged me after a while. It was also great to see Ralph Ineson have something to do. He's a bloody good rep.

    Overall I really felt that this wasn't an Eggers movie and got the feeling it was more for the studios "one for us, one for you" kind of deal.

    6/10



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 howdydoo83


    Good but nowhere near his best. Thought the ladies were the best actors in it and Dracula himself not far behind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    I really liked it and I'll be thinking about that ending for awhile, as I wasn't expecting it to be done in that way.

    I don't think it breaks into my Top 5 Vampire films but maybe that will change in time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Just thinking about the ending and

    Orlok's intention throughout is achieving true death with Ellen, but if she refuses this he will continue in unleashing his plague?



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    I took it more as

    Orlok's intent is to consummate the relationship with Ellen that she starts at the beginning of the film, by feeding on her - I don't think he intended to drink her to death, so much as she encouraged him to let his thirst consume him so he kept going beyond the point he might have stopped, at least on the first night.

    I suspect there is a lot more nuance to be read into little details in the film that would require multiple viewings, and in particular correlating those with other films or other related folklore areas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,414 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    I enjoyed this movie for sure but it kinda lost its bearings after about 50-60 minutes. The script became disjointed and very repetitive for a period of time. I just wanted them to get on with it. I felt like they could have cut 15-20 mins out and lost nothing. Some of the acting was very poor/inconsistent in patches too (esp Taylor Johnson but also Ineson and Dafoe). Overall a good horror movie and impressive production.

    7/10

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 88 ✭✭_Quilombero_


    looking forward to this one



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    I absolutely loved it entirely. I didn't see any deficiencies in it at all, whatsoever. I was immersed in it from the beginning to the end, helped by going alone to a <20% full Vue (Liffey Valley) on Sunday night. 8/10



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