Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

Doing better than Fergie isn't the goal, doing better than Ten Hag is the goal.

If he can't manage that, well…

The club is in serious trouble. The most trouble by far post Fergie. Ineos and their appointments have looked like amateurs. Best in class apparently but they’ve fumbled along as bad as the Glazers.

Amorim needs to start picking up points soon or he’s going to be in trouble.
Three red cards from our captain and it’s not even the new year. He should be stripped of the captaincy for that alone.

We’ve blamed managers, we’ve blamed players but there has been a huge turnover of both post Fergie and if anything it’s getting worse. There’s something rotten to the core at the club. A culture of mediocrity and failure.

I think Ten Hag has done as much damage to the club as Van Gaal did. Ineos let the club down badly by not sacking him in the summer. Not only that but giving him more money to spend. Amateur hour from the apparent best in class. Then the whole Ashworth debacle which was bizarre and embarrassing from start to finish.

I genuinely worry that the club isn’t any safer in the hands of Ineos than the Glazers.

The only goal the club should have at the moment is accumulating enough points to stay in the league. That might seem like hyperbole but with only 22 points at Christmas and with the possibility of zero points from the next three fixtures it’s something that shouldn’t be ignored.

Lastly I’ve said it before but I’ll say it again, Onana is just not a reliable keeper in any way shape or from. He’s been a terrible signing and we just have to hope he doesn’t cost us enough points for the rest of the season to have us in trouble. I feel bad singling him out as there is obvious dross throughout the squad but he is so erratic that it’s hard to build any foundation which you can try to build on.

And this is why sacking the manager will accomplish nothing. The players have laid down the Gauntlet and already downed tools to some degree. Sacking Amorim is giving into this useless bunch of cowards

Cancer spreads, and boy has it spread. That Portuguese journeyman should never have this club's armband.

So much depends on selling Rashford in January. And I don't say that as a boot at him, but selling him for even a low offer like £30-40m will allow us to sign 3 or 4 players.

If we could shift a few more of the donkeys, even better. And as others have said I wouldn't rule out letting Garnacho leave. We'd get a good fee because he doesn't have the baggage that Rashford has. He's been inconsistent at best, pretty crap all season and those flashes of brilliance might be enough to coax a big bid from somewhere. He's also homegrown so any fee would have a similar impact to Rashford in terms of freeing up the ability to sign 3-4 players.

I don't think we'll be bringing in more than 2 or 3 but we have to start somewhere.

How long before we hear of dressing room leaks that the players don't like Amorim's tactics, his training, his overall approach etc....

Strikers should be finishing chances that are created for them by the players around them. Not having to steal the ball from a team mate to do it themselves.

Does there ever come a point where Hojlund takes any responsibility for not being able to link with his teammates?

Forget Rashford and Garnacho, Amad Diallo was supposedly the shining light this season, a wonderful player finally getting the chance to impress and yet now it seems he is failing Hojlund as well.

If getting chances presented to you on a plate was the deal then I could be a PL striker, but unfortunately there is more to it than that. The striker is part of the equation here, where he moves, where he stands, how he uses the ball, it is all part of the equation. And Hojlund is a problem.

Who said anything about no responsibility? Our main striker and top scorer from last season had just 9 shots this season, less than our centre back and full back. Our attacking players who are worse finishers are taking all the shots. That's a problem for the team given we're struggling to score goals.