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Enoch Burke turns up to school again despite sacking - read OP before posting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭757TFFIU


    Enoch has been allowed out of prison according to RTE News. He's been warned not to be at the school when it reopens on 6th January, or it's a €1,400 per day fine. Somehow, I suspect that won't stop him, and he'll be there on the morning of 6th January. Time will tell.

    RTE news : High Court orders release of Enoch Burke from prison

    http://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/1220/1487534-enoch-burke-court/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,899 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    He'll be inside the school by the 7th and back in the Joy by the 10th.

    Possibly some more of the clown car will be arrested by then or at the court hearing too.

    Fines might possibly start being collected as garnishments, going on the last paragraph there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,784 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    Letting him out so Mammy and family can make him feel guilty about Daddy being locked up...

    "Moves and countermoves"..

    It's turned into a game of chess..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,654 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    With the father inside, who's going to be on driving duties up to the school and back?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭mountain


    good chance of the father being released on compassionate grounds?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,784 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    Doubtful, but then again, I didn't think they'd release Enoch, either.

    The difference though, is Daddy is actually under a sentence, only imposed a few days ago, and he has refused to be bound to the peace.

    (Could being complicit in Enoch breaking a court order by driving him to the school come under this?)

    If nothing else, the Burkes continue to entertain!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,935 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭scheister


    I dont think anyone sees anything else happen bar him standing outside the school come the 6th Jan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,986 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Why? He assaulted a Garda and then refused the judges offer of suspended sentence if he would simply not be a dick for 12 months. The 2 months are the sentence for his crime there's absolute no reason for anyone to have compassion for this family.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 704 ✭✭✭batman75


    You have to wonder how or if he will pay monies outstanding to the state. Up to 193k according to RTE today. While I'm sure he is sincere in his beliefs/principles we all live in a society governed by rules and regulations to ensure civil order.



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  • Subscribers Posts: 43,107 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    enoch to be freed !

    https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/1220/1487534-enoch-burke-court/

    Mr Justice David Nolan said he would impose a daily fine of €1,400 on Mr Burke if he breaches the court order by returning to the school when it reopens on 6 January.

    He'll definitely still go to the school



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,829 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    I think the Judge must be thinking with Enoch Burkes Father now in Prison and the school closed for Christmas that he will have no way of turning up at the school now unless he walks and it would be pointless if he did.

    Can't say I agree with freeing him.

    I suppose we will see if it works or nit over the next few weeks if Enoch changes his mind ir not but I doubt it. I see him ending up back in prison.

    Also it's a disgrace that he still gets paid and that he has never paid a cent of the €196,000 that he owes to the state.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    … and how much does Enoch already owe…? Getting to the point where they could jail him for non-payment of fines. Not like they haven't done it before.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,784 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    RTE is way off in their estimate.

    Its 27/01/2023 to 20/12/2024 = 694 days @ €700 per day = €485,800.00.

    That doesn't include the €15k he was fined for trespass, or any of the legal costs that were awarded against him.

    Increasing the daily fine is an empty threat. It hasn't proved to discourage Enoch yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭DmanDmythDledge


    He is only fined each day he shows up at the school?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭mulbot


    The man is a legend-



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,899 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    No, every single day including weekends/holidays; as it relates to purging the contempt not the actual act



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,361 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Id say the Christmas Dinner in casa Burke would be great fun.

    The judge is looking for a way to use the full pay the Ee is getting to offset some of the fine total..

    Thats what's needed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    A major mistake letting this nutcase out.

    Each time the judge tries to give Burke an opportunity, he throws it back in the face of the court. You just know that he will be back at the school again shouting, threatening, and roaring at kids at the earliest opportunity. There's a real child endangerment issue with him on the loose.

    The best place for Burke is rotting in jail. He doesn't deserve anymore chances until he pays back all the fines with penalties and show some remorse for his bigotry. If he's not willing to atone then just leave him in jail permanently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Releasing him during school holidays is a clever move by the court/prison system. He can't disrupt the school or classes and each time it gives him the opportunity to stay away. Also gives him time to be with his family at xmas. By not staying away when schools returns he more or less volunteers to return to prison and no one can say he is being left to rot in a cell.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,487 ✭✭✭✭dulpit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    Don't agree. The man is an attention whore. By releasing him all the time we're giving him what he wants, the oxygen of publicity. It's far better to remove his platform and let him rot in jail.

    It's not cheap but at least he's no danger to kids while locked up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,784 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    No, he is not.

    He is fined for every day he refuses to purge his contempt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,418 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I'd imagine it's just as miserable as every other day in that house

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,039 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Even Stevie Wonder can see that he will go back to the school.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭mulbot




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Yes he does appear to like the attention but releasing him every so often is a way to keep the public onside. Don't underestimate the importance of that. Even though people generally agree with him being in prison a lot of them feel a bit sorry for him and his siblings and how their lives are being wasted. There is little indication that he is a danger to anyone and I'm sure the school have security measures in place.

    If he is left to rot the public mood may change. I believe this is behind the reasons for letting him out during school holidays. When he reoffends then the legal system can effectively throw its hands in the air and say 'well we tried, what else can we do but send him back in'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,739 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Absolutely f*cking stupid decision. He has shown several times he will go back to the school. He has shown several times he will drag it all back to the courts again and waste more of the courts time. He has shown several times he has no intention of ever paying any fine imposed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 609 ✭✭✭feelings


    Hopefully the judge makes good on his statement to collect on the current hefty fine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭mountain


    nice touch from the judge to quote a parable from the Bible



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