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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭paul71


    It is almost entertaining to see how quickly the sources used by this particular poster are shot down and exposed as unreliable propaganda. It is equally impressive how quickly he can then ignore the perfectly valid rebuttals and go on to find another source of lies and propaganda.

    Every single post, dozens of them, for days, is exposed as a bunch of cadswallop posted by proven liars.

    Every argument countered with fact, the rebuttal is then blithely ignored and another bunch of lies brought up.

    I especially enjoyed the nonsense about a disgruntled Ukrainian turned traitor and the foolish request for a source to the claim, which brought up Diarmuid MacMurrough.

    It is almost as if this poster has set out to intentionally expose himself as a naive fool.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭Bitcoin


    The bombing of the orc war criminal in moscow was a brilliant move. It's proof Ukraine have the ability to strike anywhere and it will put the fear of god into senior figures within the regime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    If Trump wants to enable cheap fuel prices as promised he needs to open the floodgates and that'll tank the price and the Russian economy along with it. Putin is no longer in the position of power from his first term. Trump is now the A side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    That's not true. There have been attempts on Ukrainian generals and I believe one of their family members were badly injured or even killed. Zelenski himself has survived multiple attempts. Do you just post what you want to be true?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    They have targeted Zelensky in multiple assassination attempts, and will always try to take out Ukrainian military officials (they just aren't very good at it). They have targeted and destroyed government and administration buildings outside of Kyiv. A month or two back the Russians have said they will target "decision-making" centres - aka government.

    The Ukrainians have the capacity to reach Moscow - Putin may be reluctant to encourage that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,902 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Some people get off on humiliation. There are professionals out there that can satisfy this kink but it costs money. It's far cheaper to come to come to boards and defend the indefensible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    Its complete nonsense that Russia have not targeted Ukranian military/policacal leadership in Kiev.

    There is a whole wikipedia page on assassination attempts on Zelensky: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Volodymyr_Zelenskyy

    Even lately, Putin has threatened "decision-making centres" in Kyiv https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-says-russia-could-strike-decision-making-centres-kyiv-2024-11-28/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

    Dont blame the Ukrainians just because they are better at it than then Russians.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,902 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    You're less likely to hear about something being unsuccessful than if it were successful



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Just an observation. There are reports Ukraine may be preparing for another counter offensive soon maybe into another region of Russia. Reports of Ukrainian armour going missing suggesting it could be used.

    There's been a clear shortage of Russian armour lately also. Obviously their stocks are dwindling but they're not expected to be this short by now. Is Russian armour also missing in anticipation of this counter attack?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,159 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭scottser


    Trump shouldn't need to be worried about whatever Putin has on him. Russia could show the world a video of Trump fellating a pig and his supporters would not give one iota of a toss.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Russia has a rubber stamping Duma. Real opposition are not allowed, only some fake candidates that "run against" Putin. The judiciary is not independent and completely captured. There is no remaining free press, almost all are now state controlled. Referendums held on territory they've annexed or invaded are fake. They have entire factories that do nothing but pump out fake information. The entire "democracy" on show is a facade.

    They even have a word for it in military terms "maskirovka" - essentially the art of deception

    So it's astonishing that some individuals not only believe, but constantly argue that "peace talks" by Putin, as he invaded another country, were in any way real. It costs nothing to play an act and go right up to the day of signing pieces of paper. Bonus: you get to cast anyone who didn't go along with the sham of "not wanting peace".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,159 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Not very in touch with the whole thing, are you?

    There have also been multiple assassination attempts on Budanov himself.

    But it has come at a cost. When the GUR chief does step out, he moves with an entourage of bodyguards and intelligence agents. Of the many assassination attempts against him — which he describes as “nothing special” — the closest call came in 2019, when a bomb placed beneath his vehicle exploded prematurely. He was uninjured.Russia has blamed Ukraine’s GUR for an explosion on the Crimean bridge in October His wife Marianna Budanova was less fortunate when she was intentionally poisoned with heavy metals in November, along with several GUR officers, according to the agency. “She’s getting treatment, she feels better now,” Budanov said. He declined to elaborate whether he or his wife was the intended target of the poisoning. https://www.ft.com/content/98c005cd-7def-44b5-a938-5243c77520a9

    I doubt you have ever heard of the dioxin poisoning of a previous pro western Ukrainian president, Viktor Yushchenko:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Yeah heard that. Might be true about another attack into Russia alright before Trump is in the white house. Might be trying to have extra leverage there if they hold more Russian territory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,159 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    As well as that, they also have the delightful Vranyo, which is the telling of outrageous lies that are not expected to be believed, but will aggravate as the circumstances are usually such that the recipient is restrained by etiquette or some other constraint from calling it out directly, and has to suffer, biting their tongue. This is clearly Putins favourite. Using the dog to rattle Merkle was in a similar vein, she had to endure and was unable to tell him to fu​ck off.

    You know I’m lying, and I know that you know, and you know that I know that you know, but I go ahead with a straight face, and you nod seriously and take notes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I'm sure @Kermit.de.frog will hold his hands up and admit he was wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,854 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    a very quick Google search and @Kermit.de.frog wouldn't have made himself look so silly…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭junkyarddog


    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OeXw4FqysBQ

    Nice little short by Chad Scott showcasing russian "Success"

    Not the rosy picture of advancement some here would like us to believe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭junkyarddog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,578 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    First footage of the portable battlefield drone interceptor swings to be deployed by the Russian forces..



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,578 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    It'd needed lots of local intelligence and days or weeks of input on the particular person targeted and where best place and how to carry it out.

    One John Doe picked up so quickly from outside Russia with just a phone call of a promise of cash seems fairyland for Russian audience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,337 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    As far as the Ukrainian side of this is concerned, I'm inclined to believe it's primarily a "mess with their heads" exercise towards the Russians. For very good reasons, Kremlin propagandists know that if it happened once, it could happen again. They know the border - and most of the territory between Ukraine and Moscow - is poorly defended, that forces are stretched thin, and one breach could lead to a flood of Ukrainian troops rushing across another chunk of Russian land.

    On the other hand, more than once in recent times Zelenskyy has emphasises that Ukraine does not, at the moment, have the military capability to re-take the lost land, and it'll have to be recovered through diplomatic moves. That sounds like it could be meant to nudge the Russians towards complacency; then deliver them an almighty wallop.

    The case of the missing equipment on the Russian side, though, seems to be much more straight forward: they just don't have it. There's a bunch of amateur intelligence guys who literally count every tank, APC, howitzer, etc, on every Russian base, and they have been tracking a continual decline in everything. One report that I came across last week remarked that the most striking development this year has been the number of bases that have been "tidied up" - including getting rid of all their scrap and wrecked vehicles. There was also a note that just last week, they observed/confirmed that one base is now completely empty of all vehicles.

    So I doubt that many Russian vehicles are "going missing" - more than likely, they're hastily refurbished old stock that literally falls off a lorry on the way to the frontline (plenty of videos of that) or gets itself vapourised by a Ukrainian strike within a few days of arriving.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 30,459 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    And of course, a huge number of these assassination attempts came when there wasn't even a state of full war between the countries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,154 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Zelensky recently: "No leader has the right to negotiate with Putin on behalf of Ukraine"

    And to pre-empt those individuals who will misunderstand this, here's the context

    "I insist that no leader in the world has the right to negotiate with Putin on behalf of Ukraine. We have never delegated this mandate to anyone. We are the victims. It would be unfair if everyone started saying how the country should live. The French people in France, Italians in Italy or Americans in the United States know what they want for themselves. So do Ukrainians."

    "It's not about the person in front of you. What matters is the state you are in during the negotiations. I don't think we are in a weak position, but we are not in a strong position either. Are we in NATO? We don't know. Will we be part of the European Union? Yes, in the future, but when? To sit down with Putin under such conditions would mean giving him the right to decide everything in our part of the world. First, we need to create a model, an action plan or a peace plan, whatever you want to call it. Then we can present it to Putin or, more broadly, to Russians."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭paul71


    https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/12/18/hundreds-of-north-korean-troops-killed-fighting-for-russia-against-ukraine-says-us

    The first engagements I read of involving North Korean troops are only about a week old. If they have already suffered "100s of casualties" per reports from a few sources, then we are talking a casualty rate of 4% to 8% (of 10,000 sent) in a week or maybe 2 weeks.

    The conclusion must be, they are even more poorly trained than conscripted Russian convicts, they are been used as meatshields to a greater extent than Russians, or Russians have similar casualty rates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭jmreire


    In the first hours after they invaded Ukraine, and headed for Kiev, the intent was to capture or kill the leadership, Their airborne forces planned to do that but were stoppe in their tracks in Hostomel airport. To this day, that;s this their goal. Putin has never hesitated to kill anyone he percieves as a threat , be they politicians, journalists or even friends, remember Prigozhin? Putins personal hamburger maker and friend?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭Field east


    incredible if that is true and he succeeds - after all he has done to the ordinary citizens . When you look at the mass graves, the jails , torture chambers, etc, etc, you then pivot to all the physical destruction / mass killings directly by Russian planes piloted by Russian pilots. One could say that Assad’s mass burials are inside the graveyard walls while Putins mass graves in SyriaareOUTSODE the ‘OFFICIAL graveyard walls



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭Field east


    Is the scooter not to the right of the doorway. Given the big roll played by windows in the demise of some ‘awkard’ russians I can easily see how one can get mixed up between windows and doors. Silly me - it’s on the left of the door if one is going in and to the right if one is going out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,708 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    The truth is stranger than fiction. I'd say if a fire-hosenik came up with a headline like these they'd be promoted promptly.

    Zelenskyy Claims Russia Burning Faces Of Dead North Korean Soldiers To Conceal Identity - News18

    On Monday, President Zelensky posted drone footage on Telegram that showed a number of men taking cover behind trees, saying they were North Korean troops who had just taken part in an assault on a Ukrainian position.

    He also posted footage which he said showed Russian troops trying to conceal the presence of North Koreans on the battlefield by using a campfire to burn the faces of those who had been killed.

    from - North Korean troops killed fighting Ukraine, says US



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Zelensky say's Ukraine cannot take back the Donbass and Crimea by force. Taken from an interview with French media.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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