Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

I was just questioning it in terms of managing his workload on a return from a long lay off. He doesn't suffer many muscle injuries that I can recall.

The continuous injuries at the club isn't normal. The absolute absurdly long return times also is not normal. Anyone calling it bad luck at this point is wrong imo.

You'd hope having the lads in from the irfu recently will put competent practices in place.

Johnny may had something similar iirc, best of a bad situation for us

At least PFP is back & hopefully Murray not too far behind

Unfortunately the position where most players look to be coming to an end is the front row with; Archer, Ryan, Kilcoyne, Salanoa, Buckley and McSweeney. Outside of the front row I'd imagine only Hurley, Daly, Coombes and Gibbons are in trouble.

Would kidney be suited to it and is going back to him really a good option. What good has he done in recent times to suggest he would be any good in the role?

There's only one man for the job - Stuart Lancaster. Or Donnacha Ryan maybe. He's probably around the stage where he should get a head coach gig if that's something he's interested in.

If it's not Prendergast, that is. It's looking as if Costello will have a DOR-type role but won't actually be senior to the head coach. Maybe 'head of rugby operations' or something.

Donnacha would be an excellent forwards coach replacement for Kyri (especially given ROG has said before that he has "a PhD in lineouts"), but I don't see him being appointed head coach

Not sure I see him being forwards coach either given how long he's committed with LaR, but family circumstances could push him maybe if himself and the missus want to move home.

The most critical area at the moment has to be the front row.If Archer,Killer and John Ryan are given another year I'd really worry.the IRfU dictat about NIQ props will really hinder us.

We just need some parity at scrum time.

Does anyone know what ceiling some of the props have in the Academy?I worry they won't be up to it and just threading water. There was alot of it in the early days of the academy but thankfully the quality seems to have improved.

I think the problem is in the schools and clubs coming through. My son is 15, 6ft, has always either been a second row or back row as he came up through the ages, now he's playing junior rugby in school and his school are trying to get him to try out as a prop because there are some taller kids who can play 2nd row or back row. I know 6ft isnt tall for a prop but he's never played prop and doesnt have the build for it, but no young fellas want to play prop anymore and we are seeing that with thats coming through. As a result he's not getting game time and starting to lose interest, but I'd worry about him scrummaging at prop having never done it and they are not coached properly from what I can see. The IRFU and the provinces need to start getting players back out to clubs to put on coaching clinics, try to identify the next props and make the role important again, all youngsters are seeing is JVDF, Doris, O'Mahony, Beirne being lauded, and then the likes of Furlong, Loughman injured and battered and bruised. Even hooker seems like a more attractive option for players..