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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    And where would be safer for these Russian citizens, back in Russia, which would be so irradiated it would be hundreds of years before cockroaches would have much company?

    It’s great to hear such absurdities coming from Putin, it signals a collapse might be coming sooner than hoped for. Such desperation is a joy to behold. Hang in their Ukraine, nearly there!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,475 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    In corrupt countries, it's usually the case that major infrastructure works get started fairly quickly as there is money to be extracted made and palms get greased to get things going. In less corrupt countries, major infrastructure generally takes longer to get started because they have procedures in place, tender rules to follow, etc. That Ukraine hasn't done those particular works isn't itself a sign of corruption. And 12 months is not much time to build a new type of infrastructure, in a very dangerous environment (electrical infrastructure) which you have no experience of. Did you expect them just to ring up the local quarries to send mixers and start horsing concrete around high voltage electrical equipment?

    Electrical grid infrastructure is huge. Generating stations themselves are huge and then you have cables and substations across the entire country. Encasing even a small portion of it in concrete is not an option, there is just too much and inter-reliant on other parts. And any concrete structure would be of limited use against the type of missiles that Russia is using. Defense systems to shoot down missiles are far better than encasing things in concrete; they protect a vast area of the country not just whatever it is you want to encase in concrete, they are relatively quick and easy to install (assuming you are taking units which already exists and use existing support systems) and when being gifted existing equipment from other countries there is less scope for corruption.

    But if you are so concerned for the Ukrainian power grid, how about asking your mates in Russia to stop bombing it? Or at the very least, condemn Russia for their actions instead of desperately searching for ways to shift the blame to Ukraine...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Field east


    re Russia calling back his citizens, does that include Russian embassy staff, Russian ‘sleepers’ , those involved in business companies including business owners, and such. OR is he only referring to those Russians not involved in ‘essential services’



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I think it's more of a pantomime designed to make themselves sound serious. It's essentially them pretending that Russians are casually holidaying / working across the Western World as if nothing has actually changed for them, and then declaring towards this fictional cohort that "now this is serious!" "Now you gotta leave!"

    It's almost akin to a publican demanding that everyone leave the pub hours after everyone had already gone home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,626 ✭✭✭Field east


    I misunderstood the post. Putin was not calling back his citizens , he only advised those who intended to go to Non Friendly countries not to go or you will likely be arrested / hassled/ etc, etc,etc. BUT the same not apply those Russians already living in The Uzs and other such non friendly countries?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,659 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    It's very dangerous in those foreign countries, especially the democracies without any war.

    Stay in Russia where uncle Vlad will keep you nice and safe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,880 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭SoapMcTavish


    Any chance you could maybe give us some analysis of the russian side of this ? Maybe discuss the corruption in the russian system ? It's kinda boring reading your useless and obvious diatribes. The posts are terrible, but also kinda entertaining because they show the level russia and the friends of russia have fallen to. I really hope you know you are a stooge, and you post this rubbish knowing it's pure garbage. The alternative is that you believe what you post - and thats just sad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    The penny hasn't dropped with you yet. Putin isn't stopping as he thinks the meat waves are working. So he's not talking. When the tide turns, and it will, then no point in UKR talking, they just take back the land that russia has taken. By that time russia will prob be no more, broken back to its constituent parts. Its this last bit that the west fears, not russia as it stands today, its seen as a joke country. But those parts will have nuclear abilities, but my guess is they will trade them for Nato membership and protection.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,900 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Meh. I just assumed more people at home = bigger pool of conscripts and/or more workers to make up for the shortfall due to being conscripted.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    He is panicking as Russian birth rates have hit new record lows while death rate in the meatgrinder he created is up and up

    the birth rate is at 1999 levels now which itself was at a 1.6 rate which was lower than even WW2

    Usual caveats about Russian statistics apply, I bet the situation is even worse in reality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,182 ✭✭✭scottser


    A dollar = 109 Rubles now.

    crack crack

    Can you hear it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭zv2


    The trick is to shoot them before they can get to that stage. Ultimately they need boots on the ground and that's where insurgency counts.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭zv2


    Well, if they increase the birth rate there are a number of negatives - These new children will not be able to contribute to the failing economy for 18 years or so. Children are high maintenance and low return. Also, they won't be suitable for meat waves until they are old enough to die for nothing. It won't help Russia in the short or medium term.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Great, now I can pay the Islamists for gas, instead of the oligarchs. Thank you NATO.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    NATO should invade Syria?

    We already pay all sorts of deplorable Arab regimes a ton of money for oil and gas, since we

    1. Had green minister who blocked LNG terminals
    2. Ban extraction of 2-3 decades of gas in Ireland

    but anyways that’s going off on a tangent covered elsewhere



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,626 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Those foreign democracies as so dangerous that Putin's own offspring and those of his oligarchs all have to live there….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,880 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    So many Russians involved in war will be spending rest of their lives looking over their shoulders expecting a Mossad type extermination like them Nazis did

    Aside: His surname is Shatsky? 💩



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    Are you sure? I think you mixed up usd with euro.

    It shows usd/rub at 103.73

    Euro/rub is at 108.91

    Looks like they're buying loads of rubles again, trying to stabilize the currency.

    I wonder how long this will last, next will be interest increase to 25%



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭yagan


    It might be for another thread, but Putin's invasion of Ukraine has massively accelerated Russia's loss of stature in the world.

    For decades, pre and post cold war actors in the middle east could play east off west, but now one pillar of that old competition risks implosion and the other is looking increasingly isolationist, which may in turn end up leading to a general civil revolution in the middle east that's been nascent since a fruit seller in Tunisia set himself on fire.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    Agree, plus invading and colonising countries to grab their resources is something Russia does

    The west if anything keeps detaching from unstable places

    Eitherway Putin loses and yet another nail in Gazproms coffin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭yagan


    Russia and the West played the same game. After WWII Britain got 40% of it's oil for its Navy fleet from Iran and were active in toppling any dissent that would make it more expensive. It was a western backed regime that extinguished democracy there and strengthen autocracy rule under the Shah who went on to spaff the nations wealth hosting the most outlandish party of the 20th century at Persepolis which was billed as "The Greatest Party in History!".

    Who knows, in a century some new post petro emergent nation in the middle east may look upon the west and decide that it's lacking "guidance".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,557 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Aaaaand he's back, just repeating already addressed talking points. Due to disappear again shortly for a few days as soon as he's pulled up on discredited claims which he refuses to engage directly on. Fully expect a couple more Friends of Putin to be chiming in now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Russian sabotage and reconnaissance groups have already begun to penetrate the southern streets of Pokrovsk. Newly built defenses in the area were taken without a fight and were totally unmanned.

    pok.jpg

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭yagan


    The daily briefings might have been disrupted for a bit with that Syria distraction, normal service resuming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭Apiarist


    I am quite concerned about what Trump might do in order to force the "ceasefire" in Ukraine. He has no instruments to force Russia to end the war immediately. A smart, patient man would have provided Ukraine with American-produced weapons in huge quantities, as much as Ukraine can use, and Ukraine might win the war in a year.

    Is Trump a smart and patient man? An impatient president of the USA may go for an "easy solution", that is to force Ukraine to sign an agreement that gives Putin all he actually wants. That is a thorough humiliation of Ukraine by forcing it to agree that all lost territories are forever Russian and that Ukraine will not get any security guarantees (= no NATO). This will be the repeat of Minsk agreements, crushing the political system of Ukraine and ensuring that no reconstruction is possible and that refugees not return to Ukraine. It will just give Russia a respite for a few years to build up its forces to go at Ukraine again in the near future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    Deploy the goats! 🐐



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