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Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,313 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Its a pretty conservative selection Bar EOC in the 2nd row, but the backs do look very good,

    Its a pity about the weather, but if we can get any space and keep handling errors to the minimum, we have the potential to get the 4 tries

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    Lots of IRFU enforced game time limitation across the four provinces by the looks of it.

    I'd say it's voluntary. Like, van der Flier and McCarthy are starting and they played all four Ireland matches, but then Beirne, Doris and Porter did likewise and are benching.

    Munster are going to romp home tomorrow so now is the time to rest anyone who needs it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Pepp1989


    It was really important to see how he fared v Fiji alright. It's infuriating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,762 ✭✭✭50HX


    Can't blame Farrell for that...his job to pick the best team

    Anyways it must be a big boost to o connells confidence to get the start & great to see



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Conservative? Who would you have put in instead? It looks to me like anyone who's fit is playing.

    And as I said earlier, the weather will be fine by KO.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,033 ✭✭✭✭phog


    But that's the point, he didn't need his best team and he certainly didn't pick his best team for Fiji.

    Everyone has an opinion on team selections, my own is you really don't need to pick the same player as a starter for all Autumn or Summer games. They're your opportunities to mix it up a bit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,391 ✭✭✭letowski


    Interesting team, not sure what’s up with Ahern, may still be dealing with a knock or something.

    I think the openside call is the correct one to be totally honest, I think Kendellen frankly has been in better form than Hodnett since last spring.

    Our lacklustre draw against a second strong Bayonne side at home in the 1st round last year should focus complacent minds. Hopefully anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭CONSI


    always thought Beirne playing all 4 games was too much…and no update on Aherne, must have aknock, but wasnt listed on the players injury update



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,762 ✭✭✭50HX


    Any of ye at the Lions match last weekend

    Pitch didn't look great, or else it was my TV😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,033 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Your TV.

    I easy there and the field didn't stand out to be anyway poor. We did get an unmerciful shower of rain before kick off but I can't recall it gathering on the surface or cutting up



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭Jofspring


    Was one of the first things I noticed. Pitch did look pretty poor from the stands. The cold weather in the weeks leading up to it probably didn't help as it looked fairly bare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,033 ✭✭✭✭phog


    Screenshots from the highlights

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    Does the pitch look bad or are we getting used to watching rugby on artificial pitches



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,915 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Yeah the pitch was fine. It's a hybrid surface, so can easily withstand games in poor weather conditions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    How is Ruadhan Quinn getting on this season? Does he look like he could breakthrough in the coming years? Lots of back row talent in Munster with Edogbo and Gleeson also coming through without mentioning the likes of Kendellen and Hodnett who are both young enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,318 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Not a Munster fan but Quinn has disappointed me this season. Seems to be suffering from the same issue as many Munster players in that he looks flat and heavy legged, which apparently was due to overtraining. We'll see if that changes with the changes made to the backroom team. He's obviously an excellent athlete, just hasn't been able to show it or make much of an impact on games this season. I thought he looked more dynamic when he was first playing senior rugby straight out of school.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,318 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    If the implication is that Beirne's Ireland workload detracts from his provincial contributions (which is a complete misunderstanding of how the Irish rugby system works but we can park that), how do you reconcile that with the fact that Beirne has played more for his province since the World Cup than any other player selected for that tournament?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,033 ✭✭✭✭phog


    implication is that Beirne's Ireland workload detracts from his provincial contributions

    No, that wasn't my point at all.

    Do you think over a series of friendly games that a national coach (that has a have a far bigger playing pool than any provincial team) should start the same player in all the games in the series?

    I could well be wrong here but I think there were 4 players used in all 4 AIs, in a year where we could be team building that's disappointing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,318 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    I don't think chopping and changing more in response to a sudden loss in form would be helpful personally. I think our age profile at lock is pretty good and the most obvious candidates to be brought into the international fold (Ahern and Edogbo) were injured so I don't feel there was a pressing need to rotate. Ultimately I'm reasonably happy with the selections and have faith in Andy Farrell generally.

    With Beirne specifically, he plays so consistently for both Munster and Ireland, and almost never gets replaced, that I believe it must be by design. I remember when Billy Vuniplola was at his peak, the talk was that he had to play every week to maintain form. Maybe there is something similar with Beirne, I don't know.

    The last time Beirne didn't play the full 80 minutes for Munster (apart from getting sin binned) was when he came off at 70 minutes in the URC semi against Leinster in 2023.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,033 ✭✭✭✭phog


    We won three on the trot, the Fiji game was after we beat Argentina. So swapping out Beirne for Fiji would have been after a win



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    the pitch is going to get a pretty stern test tonight anyway



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,818 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    That Munster jersey is utterly horrendous.

    Munster did well not to concede early and then have been on top but they’ve nothing to show for it. SF not lacking in appetite but you’d still expect it’s a matter of if not when for Munster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭clsmooth


    Casey has been superb so far



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,318 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Yeah he looks very confident, making good decisions and passing is excellent as always.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,998 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    So many empty seats, I remember when you couldn't get a ticket for love nor money, what's gone wrong?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,338 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Abrahams looks like a great bit of business, pace and dog about him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭niallm77


    REd card i think



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭niallm77


    That is a ridiculous call from Pearce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,338 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    That should have been red I think



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,818 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    there is no dip there at all. Blessed that’s not red.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭testtech05


    Very lucky not to see red there



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