Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

I don't pretend to have one — but i think the best answers probably lie in being humble to complexity. The key problem is that the things which make migration easier are things that everyone wants — you can list them out:

1. Everyone wants the freedom to travel with ease and this demand has made global travel ever-easier and ever-safer.

2. Everyone (rich and poor) wants the freedom to migrate so global demand for migration remains constantly driven thus leaving a roulette of skills gaps to be filled. As a small island nation, we also will always have an emigrant element.

3. Everyone wants access to better education and training thus there is an upward pressure in society as educated children move on into professional or technical jobs leaving gaps "below" (so to speak).

4. Everyone wants instant communication channels and information on demand. This makes migration easier to research, plan out (and change plans as you go) and lessens the emotional / psychological impact of leaving home when you can stay in touch with your family.

5. Nobody really wants extreme deterrents that would decisively deter illegal migrants and make them feel like even taking a punt isn't worth it (ie, gunning the boats in the Mediterranean is not what any sane person wants).

What I'd like to see from the Right is some honesty that migration is not merely a creation of lefty liberal ideology but is actually the inevitable output (and downsides) of people getting what they demand. And if they can admit that, they might actually get somewhere in addressing it — particularly as regards to what extent they have to drop some of the fearmongering stuff and try promote positive ways to achieve buy-in from migrants to a sense of shared national identity (how about a sustained and well funded campaign to re-establish the Irish language as a shared language and common source of distinct cultural identity for example?).

New data out today on the number of UKR refugees here under Temporary Protection.

I think it is important to remind ourselves how generous we are.

The number is nearly at 110k.

Even though we have less population than other countries, we have accepted more UKR refugees.

• We have 3x what Denmark has
• Norway is massively wealthy, yet poorer Ireland took more.
• France has 60m people, 12x our population, yet has just 60k adult refugees (the 60k excludes kids)
• Austria, much closer to UKR, and richer than us, has 83.5k

Thanks to the workers of Ireland, who face 48% marginal tax rate on wages below median earnings.

Yes, the 48% marginal rate is not reserved for very high earners, to keep this show on the road, if you earn below the 2023 median earnings of €43,221, you will pay 48% on a slice of your earnings.

Thank God for all that Corporation Tax, allowing our Govt to pay for all of this.

What might happen if the Trump admin changes tax laws, to cause profits to flow back to the USA……………..

Two lots of double child benefit and Christmas bonuses for people who never contributed a cent will take the sting out of the cost.

I like your posts and I think you make great and fair points. Can I just say about your point ‘it is actually the inevitable outputs (and downsides) of people getting what they demand’. I agree with this. It might be overly simplistic but do you not think there is something to be said from trying to reverse the culture of giving into demands?

‘People use them positively’. Clearly you’ve never heard any rap or hip hop

Irish people are allowed to use the term Paddy. And they’re allowed to call out other Irish people

The majority of photos on the Garda website have had nominations made as to their identity.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/dublin-riots-gardai-remove-all-persons-of-interest-photos-from-website-1787350

I'm curious, are you implying that there is possibly somewhere else to process the claims?

I suggest all claim processing is done within a week of arrival in large detention centres at ports of arrival.

Something else very important, when the claim fails, they failed AS must be removed asap.

The Netherlands plans a hard cap of 20 million, slowing down immigration drastically to achieve that target.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/dutch-government-wants-cap-population-153604759.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAEiGT_j52y_ekyHo_l7NvaYVP9Yjv-LJm7XMN_ErJkAX948NKdiRL_jSIJFDTZOs6S3Let45xcDaRS_Syv209QhlYQJT36-Dw-YpmW4OIc85mHG8nN_xLHE2ADZDyQd8vpvcON7HwkXuYzT6ZMXbSE-PtjGQ2bRNlEG2Chy_9iiW

It's probably better for their net zero targets too, as more people = more emissions.

Thanks to the workers of Ireland

That includes Ukrainians. 23,000 of them.

Kind of puts our own "I have a bad knee I can't work" brigade to shame doesn't it?

Most of the countries on your map are NATO members. Yes, we might be spending more than some countries on housing Ukrainian refugees but we are spending a relatively small amount on defence or military compared to nearly all of them - there's definitely an element of 'swings and roundabouts' here. Finland's military budget is €6bn this year, Denmark's is €5bn (ours is €1.3bn).

It looks like future MOJ, Jim O Callaghan genuinely wants to increase safe countries and crack down on illegal immigration, have more processing centres

Doesn't surprise me, sure most say 'No English' when you try to converse with them!

I wonder when the incoming wallop on the tax haven economy arrives, and these gadge's want to flee elsewhere to seek "asylum", will they be allowed? Hopefully they will like, god love the poor cratur's.