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3 New Navy Vessels for Irish Naval Service

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,228 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    After recent/current life-extension refits, not on your absolute nelly.

    No further ships will be retired until Róisín in 7-10 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭vswr


    but they'll sit essentially mothballed with no staff for them…. until retirement



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,228 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The last few years have been poor, but hopefully the next government will push even more aggressively with the structural reforms and investment that has begun. So I hope you're wrong and that these ships can be put back into full-time operational service in the next 12 to 24 months.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,983 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    I look forward to seeing the boat in Dublin Port, I wonder where they have found to keep it in such a busy commercial port? Very odd that Dun Laoghaire is being billed as a new east coast "mini" naval base and then keep a brand new boat several miles away in another location entirely.

    I am a little surprised that they will be used as a platform for Customs operations when Customs have two sea going vessels which are also being replaced by more larger and more modern platforms. One of the Customs Cutters regularly operates from Dun Laoghaire harbour, so they are located on the East coast already. The cutters are a very different and more appropriate platform than these new harbour boats, so that's a curious role for them to assist in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭sparky42


    All we can do is wait and see who gets returned to government, who gets the job and then how committed they are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,228 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Dun Laoghaire could not be described as a busy commercial port anymore. Not for perhaps 20 years.

    It gets leisure traffic, some light commercial connected to the few fishing trawlers that are left and deliveries to marine related operators in the Harbour. And of course it gets dawn and dusk Tenders from the Cruise Ships that anchor in the Bay during the high season. Also Irish Lights and Customs berthing occasionally.

    But its a far cry from when I was a kid in Dun Laoghaire, when often up to 4 Ro-Pax ferries came and went to Britain all day and night, and some other freight used the Harbour.

    The Naval investment is not only welcome, its vital to the future of the Harbour as a break-even proposition for the Council,who now operate it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,894 ✭✭✭Alkers


    First boat will be in Cork, one of the four will be in Dublin, but likely dun laoghaire not Dublin port as I unde



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    I would agree with you, that the old customs boats would imo be nicer than these, obviously there's reasons/ practicality that they have gone this way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭a/tel


    These are training vessels for the NSR. The vessels will only be armed and fitted with military comms if PDF personnel are aboard for certain operations. These launches are not commissioned state vessels like the NS fleet, and are therfore limited in what operations they can carry out.

    However they will be invaluable for training NSR personnel to a higher standard in seamanship etc, and that can only be a very good thing for the NS and the reserve.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,428 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    "These launches are not commissioned state vessels like the NS fleet, and are therfore limited in what operations they can carry out."

    I'd be curious to read the regulations on that. They are owned by the State, crewed by the State, armed by the State (even if only on certain occasions due to policy), given a naval pennant number… I can't think of an international law on the matter, what's the Irish one?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    The below is from defence forces social media.

    The first of four custom built Naval Service Reserve launches were delivered to the Naval Base today by @cygnusboats. These Irish built boats will enable the NSR to conduct Maritime Defence and Security Operations in support of the Navy’s roles and responsibilities. The launches will be armed with a 7.62mm General Purpose Machine Gun. They are fitted with a crane and gantry that will enable a sub-surface capability such as diving operations and searches using towed sonar. The delivery today marks yet another positive step in the regeneration and development of our Reserve Defence Force. The NSR offers part time opportunities in our @irishdefenceforces. They are recruiting in each of the four Units located in Cork, Dublin, Limerick and Waterford. Apply today at www.military.ie @irish_defenceforce_recruitment @naval_service @navalservicereserve



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,428 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Yes, I've read it, it doesn't address the question posed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,894 ✭✭✭Alkers


    https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2024/1205/1484875-naval-vessel-launch/



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,983 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭mupper2


    Looks like the NSDS got a 2nd one of those nice Polarcircle dive boats

    O/C Liam O Sullivan

    irish naval NSDS dive boats.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,228 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Ships and boats everywhere, and nary a man to sail 'em.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Is the mobile crane removing.a small boat beside them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭mupper2


    They are removing all the private boats, dredging and reclaiming the dry dock etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Thats great news havent they only went out to tender for the main project?

    At least someone has the right mindset to bascially do a site clearence job.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    Irish Times article is little bit misleading but still not a good postion for the Navy to be in.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/12/13/irish-naval-ships-may-have-to-deploy-unarmed-as-weapons-unit-down-to-single-technician/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭highpitcheric


    Betteridge's law.

    Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no.

    Loophole in this case if you use the word 'may'.

    Not to say its untrue or inaccurate, but just take it with a grain of salt as newspapers MAY make money through exaggeration and drama. They MAY be eager to be selective on details.

    Bailey had a borderline personality" based on "narcissism, psycho-rigidity, violence, impulsiveness, egocentricity with an intolerance to frustration and a great need for recognition".

    • Psychiatrist Jean Michel Masson and psychologist Katy Lorenzo-Regreny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    The chief of staff has responded to the times article. They could always borrrow a 105 and its crew from collins barracks and strap it to the ship if needs be!

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1215/1486608-navy-vessels-weapons/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Even a few manuals would do the trick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/12/italys-new-trieste-lhd-technical-overview/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,370 ✭✭✭jonnybigwallet


    Now that's what I'd call a proper MRV!

    Shame our lads ain't gettin one of these.

    Ideal for gettin rid of them Russian so and so and sos! Merry Christmas



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,228 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    What possible use would we have for a 1.5 Billion Euro, 800 ft, 40,000 ton amphibious assault ship??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭sparky42


    oh come on, do you really think he has a clue about such “minor” details…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭vswr


    cruising round the med,fishing and hosting government networking functions.

    call it the L.E. Bertie Ahern



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,228 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭roadmaster


    I see media this week saying the becketts have gone to sea without the 76mm working. Could the lads that look after the 105s not have been deployed to the naval base or retiered personal not brought back in on special contracts?



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