Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

Western society has gone so soft. Insert comment about it's the law, everyone is entitled to claim and how do you know he's a scammer bla bla bla. Imagine how you feel reading about this scumbag if you were a friend or relative of one of those poor gay men he beheaded.

The "but we have international obligations" crowd conveniently brush over the fact we had an opt out thanks to the will of the people. Denmark prove it can be done. No obligations, massive deterrents and no scammers entertained.

Yes. By any standard, Western Europe — overrun and destroyed by migration over the last 10 years — is objectively a pretty terrible place to live or to be. Irish people can plainly see how awful it is on the continent, hence why they never go there and instead choose to go to the long list of largely monoethnic low-immigration paradises out there who provide the template of the utopian society to which we should all aspire.

Not to worry though, Europeans have seen the light. With the stunning success of the Brexiteers or Meloni in Italy who have absolutely made good on all their promises to fix the ultimately simple immigration phenomenon and with Right leaning politics making gains across Europe — the continent shall be saved and all of our lives will be materially better.

Our welfare is extremely high here compared to what a salary would be in for example a middle Eastern country or Eastern European country. My main concern is people coming to Treasure Island to sponge. If you are here illegally and support yourself and don't commit any crimes it isn't too bad.

Example that really does my head in is Juma Palini from Sligo. Here since 2006 ,hasn't worked and welfare ever since. On disability the last few years, has 350k cash in his house. A social house handed to him and is bringing a case to get his money back. PAYE earners are absolute mugs here when we are supporting the likes of him. How many more like that here? It's bad enough we support our own Irish born spungers.

Hasn't this issue been covered by Irish media recently from our perspective though?

I can link you to numerous articles on the northern Ireland border being used to facilitate illegal immigration to Ireland.

It was even raised by the Taoiseach and discussed on the national news.

So when you say not raised by the 'broadsheets' I'm wondering why they in particular annoy you on this issue and what it is in particular you feel they are lacking?

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2024/0501/1446781-migration-uk/

Oh, have they stopped immigration in Europe?
How interesting. Didn’t know that.

Not correct that Meloni has solved the migrant situation in Italy. Far from it in fact: she admits that the refugee issue is far more complex and difficult to get a handle on than she ever imagined before coming to power.

After GE, tent city returns in Dublin, I expect more cases brought by the NGOs, the NGOs should house them in their office building

Sweden , Denmark etc have certainly become less attractive for asylum seekers since cracking down on them.

A big loss for the refugee industry's and their shills in those countries but c'est la vie.

The only countries receiving fewer asylum seekers than Denmark are Lithuania, Poland, Portugal, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Estonia and Hungary.

A similar trend can be seen in Sweden, which topped the list in 2013 and dropped down to number 14 in 2021

Be careful about the weasel words from McEntee. Faster decisions can easily mean waving them through because it's simply too onerous for civil servants to investigate their claims; and sure look, it's too expensive to charter flights to deport them. Also you can't deport them because, well reasons. Oh, and you're obviously a racist/homophobe/transphobe/islamophobe/anyotherkindofphobe for even asking for faster decisions. Oh and there's international obligations that other EU countries don't seem to be subject to, but we are.

You stated nothing will change in the real world in elections based on immigration.

The poster correctly pointed out in Europe which is the real world, lots of right wing parties have become popular over immigration.

It is very interesting and now you know what is happening in the real world.

And problems for suckers like us where they will go instead.

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What's that I hear you say? That even with a Right wing government the Italians have still struggled to deal with the problem because reality is a thing and the logistics of dealing with human beings who arrive in your territory is actually quite a difficult and nuanced thing that is also influenced by prevailing conditions elsewhere in the world that you can't necessarily control?

Even at that, the message from the Right here — and certainly going by what many advocate on here — is that we shouldn't really give two flying fecks about Italy, right? Ireland comes first, it's not our job to share the burden, and we shouldn't accept asylum seekers who come up through Italy because it's a safe country and they should stay there. We should be more like Hungary — say f**k you to Brussels and let Italy handle the problem. And if we all do that, it's only Italy and Greece etc who suffer and we'll be grand and those countries will just happily accept that and not actively encourage people to move on to neighbouring countries.