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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,962 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Don't quote me on this but I thought the 2 big clubs raided were gay clubs ?

    So the general russian population won't worry about the patrons being thrown into storm Z style units ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    That sounds like something Putin’s propaganda wing would spin as a way of downplaying the event

    First they came for Ukrainians in occupied territories

    Then they came for Buryats and other non ethnic “Russians”

    Then they emptied out the prisons

    Then they invited in Cubans / Syrians / Nepalese / Africans etc to die for a pittance

    Then they pleaded North Korea for meat

    Now they coming for Muscovites


    At some stage the “Russia has infinite manpower” brigade is going to have bend over really hard to try to spin that Putin is feeding people into woodchipper and have little to show for it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,337 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    The "Russia is winning" brigade would do well to note that although the daily Russian casualty figures are now three-ish times higher than they were two years ago, Russia now controls less of Ukraine and less of Russia than it did back then. But hey, unlimited resources and all that …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,962 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Honestly,as I was typing it out , thats what I was thinking, "first they came for the Gays "

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,962 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    In a " just keep your head down and say nothing" society, that's the populations fate -

    Keep consuming the propaganda, and avoid looking up or making yourself a target ,

    Even with the serious and huge manpower shortages that the Russians have on the front lines they seem to be keeping their internal security services firmly in Russia, the last thing the elites want to do is take their boot off the necks of the average russian , plus because they all have personal security forces they're busy watching each other as well ,

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,337 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    On the subject of manpower shortages in Russia, I heard some random podcaster during the week point out that Ukraine's invasion of Kursk was an inadvertent gift for Russia albeit with a short expiry date. Insofar as Russia ever follows "the rules", it has always been the case that the twice-yearly intake of conscripts were always guaranteed not to be sent off to war in a foreign country. Those with enough money to pay the appropriate bribes were able to ensure that this still applied during the period of the SMO, which limited their availability for frontline combat.

    However, when Ukraine invited itself into Kursk, Putin was immediately able to send this under-used resource to "defend the Motherland" on Russian soil. This is one of the reasons the incursion didn't alleviate pressure on other lines of combat straight away. The strategy worked for Ukraine in the end though - the conscripts are dead, and Russia had to pull forces from the contested territory of Ukraine to stabilise the situation. We're seeing the effect of that now, with Ukraine retaking pockets of land along the Donbas front line.

    I also read one (single, uncorroborated) post indicating that the bould Kim isn't entirely happy with the supplementary manpower arrangement, in particular the fact that the Russians don't consider it necessary to feed anyone working for them, and rather too many officers have been killed in airstrikes without ever being in combat. If there's even a grain of truth in that, maybe we don't need to worry too much about having millions of North Koreans fueling another year of meat-waves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,220 ✭✭✭yagan


    Even if the Kursk incursion made it easier for Vlad to increase conscription to defend the motherland the other side of that coin is that it merely sped up the supply to meat grinder.

    Russia has not changed its tactics since day one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Dubh Geannain


    Friends of Russia chipping in again -

    BUDAPEST, Dec 4 (Reuters) - Hungary has asked the United States to exempt Russia's Gazprombank from sanctions when it comes to payments for natural gas as those sanctions could negatively affect some U.S. allies, Hungary's foreign minister said on Wednesday.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/hungary-requests-us-sanctions-exemption-gas-payments-gazprombank-2024-12-04/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    As of the end of November, the Russian Federation occupies a total of 18.07% (+0.12%) of the territory of Ukraine, including the occupied territories until 2022

    This is the thirteenth month of active offensive actions by the Russian Armed Forces

    Meanwhile Russian backed Assad just got run out of Homs Syria's 4th biggest city well over a million people. The locals are celebrating.

    Putin is raging, Erdogan firmly back in a position of power in this Duel. Will he go for the jugular?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Avatar in the Post


    There will be 50 year old beer belly Russian road sweeps dating Russian Super models.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭junkyarddog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,962 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Always thought it funny ,that even after the Duma had signed off on the not yet acquired territory of Ukraine now being part of russia , the russian gov still didn't send their national service conscripts directly to Ukraine,

    Basically even the Gov doesn't believe their own bullshit ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    Russian politicians are fast becoming dangerously unbalanced. Soon, they will be a stone trough away from full-on toons. [no disrespect meant to Newcastle United fans :)]

    Dan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,933 ✭✭✭Rawr


    I suspect the various Duma members realise that they are now essentially little more than a Rubber Stamp Parliament and that all they’ve got left to get ahead is to show off their “Z” credentials as best they can.

    So I guess they end up trying to out-“Z” each other with various OTT statements like these.

    To invoke Godwin’s First Law for a sec, Hitler’s people did the very same thing, trying to out-nazi each other in an attempt to impress him. This resulted in truly monstrous things as we all know. This is the very same mindset that has taken hold around the Kremlin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,641 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Thats mad footage. Had to watch it a few times as wasn't sure who the people were running at at the beginning. I thought they were government forces being chased but realised they weren't and then government forces being chased but they really dealt with a lot of the opposition in that video.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,641 ✭✭✭zv2


    Lavrov doesn't know it but it is actually the Klingons who are behind this. In fact the Klingons are really being used by the Borg. I can't explain it all though, it's complicated…

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,641 ✭✭✭zv2


    Government forces trying to overtake the guys that were chasing them. Mad out.

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Big time. The chaps running were a bit lucky as they could of all been mown down.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,176 ✭✭✭jmreire


    The sanctions have always being biting, but effects take time to make themselves felt. Whats there now sanction wise is the 13th version, with each version biting harder than the one before. Ever since sanctions were first imposed, every time there's talks about treaties or ceasefires etc. the precondition from Russia has always been, no talks until the sanctions are lifted. So the sanctions are hurting Putin now, and always have been.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,176 ✭✭✭jmreire


    I find that Lavrov, Peskov, Soloyuv and the female contingent are extremely reliable in their reporting, its all a question of intrepretation. Believe the opposite of what they say, and you will have the nearest thing to the truth that the Russians are capable of.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,176 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Headline from the video is "

    War in Syria — Crazy and very brutal footage of opposition forces chasing fleeing Assad loyalists.

    Who can say that those running they weren't "dealt" with afterwards in the mopping up operations? They were not in a good situation in any case. They could also have surrendered, of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,850 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,150 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    It's so weird reading the exact same comments from Russians regarding Syria as I did from Americans regarding Afghanistan.

    "They don't even fight back, why should we even care" etc etc. These nations who look to impose their way on smaller countries just don't get it. Spend billions or even a trillion and eventually you'll run out of money but their hatred for you will not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    And yet the far left is cheering for Assad and Putin, one of them even attempted to downplay the 350,000 dead these gobshites are responsible for in Syria in parallel thread

    there was an interesting article about an example of sanctions working in Washington post

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/12/05/russian-sanctions-weapons-ukraine-war/

    Russians had to switch to shittier Chinese parts leading to much higher failure rates for their drones



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Great. However, there is a follow up question.

    If 2014 was a coup, and 2019 was a free and fair election, who cares if 2014 was a coup because the system has righted itself?

    Or, more specifically, how then is your 2014 coup a justification for what Russia did in 2022?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,176 ✭✭✭jmreire


    The drones are one thing the Chinese are supplying (defective) parts for, its a different ballgame when they are supplying aircraft parts……in one day alone recently, there were 3 emergency incidents declared in one day!!. But most days, there are incidents of one kind or another from major to minor. I was on one Russian flight, in an IL76 cargo plane, and the plane had to land. So the engineer got out to have a look, and I was holding the ladder for him while he worked on the engine. He had a look, got down off the ladder, collected a hammer and chisel from the toolbox, went back up the ladder, where he started hammering away at some part of the engine,then he came back down the ladder, closed up the engine cowling and spoke in Russian to what I understood to be " That ***** part is always giving trouble! And off we flew again, Normalno!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,220 ✭✭✭yagan


    Yet Ukraine relies on Chinese drone components because the US drones were too unreliable.



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