Advertisement
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.
Hi all, please see this major site announcement: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427594/boards-ie-2026

Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

12982993013033041331

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,944 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    TBF, we had like a decade of price freezes under the glazers.

    And eeven if they stilll did increase the ticket prices, I think it would be bettre optics, at least, if they had (1) discussed it with the fan groups and (2) show how theey had actioned several other avenues of revneue generation (and cost cutting) before announcing an unpopular price increasee to net them 1.5million over the next 7 months. (about 0.25% of revenue)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    Yeah, look, I don't disagree with you on the main thrust of it at all.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,835 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    thumbledino or something does the ratings, but like all of these guys - they peak and trough because they are fans and cant be objective, and frankly they are just all trying to make some money and sensationalism sells



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,944 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    we can talk about these fancam things being garbage, but garbage toxicity is what sells. Goldbrige has made a fortune talking rubbish about the United players, and singling players out for harsher criticism than players his group have an in with.

    I don't like Goldbridge and his ilk, I think they are actively damaging to the club.

    But at the same time, they are only caterign to an audience that wants what they are serving up and also, the club have actively used him/their ilk in the past - giving them access and info. The club directly enables the narrative they peddle, even if the players complain about it.

    I just kinda wish I thought of it myself… with the hate I get in here i probably could have monitized it. My anti-Ineos agenda coulda made me a fortune. But then I also would have been cancelled for my Anti-EtH agenda. So swings and roundabouts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,531 ✭✭✭Damien360


    are they any different from what Sky is currently offering. When have you seen actual analysis and not just “bantz”. And those comments become tomorrow’s click bait so it brings in advertising revenue. Neville, Carragher, Keane are all guilty of it.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭scottser


    deleted



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,944 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    My feeling would be Sky's coverage is surface level and pub talk, where as TUS and the like peddle far more in stoking hatred. Hatred vs players, vs management, vs people who disagree with their narrative about them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,234 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Not sure if already posted, BBC interview with the boss.

    Impossible not to like the guy. Thought his comments on being emotional, and different from the last coach were interesting. That really seems to be the case. Erik always seemed to look and feel a bit awkward whereas Ruben seems more likely to connect with the players.

    Whether that's better than a disciplinarian who isn't accepted as "one of the lads" is another story but so far so good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭jayo44


    Was watching it too it's probably the best interview he has given to date.

    I think the comparison with ETH is hard to make. They were brought in for two very different reasons. Eth followed Mr nice guy ole that the players were supposedly walking all over and his main task was to weed out the Rotten apples and get rid of them. I think by and large he has been very successful with that. Maybe the issue is he found it hard to separate that side of it and having a connection with his team.

    Eth was very successful in Holland and will probably be successful again elsewhere he just didn't seem to click with united.

    The more we see RA setting up the team with proper tactics and players feeding off that maybe the main issue with ETH was he didn't have a plan outside of getting rid of the rotten apples.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭maximus15


    I still think ETH didn't succeed in getting rid of all rotten apples ,as some of them were still there and cost him his job . Same lads who down tools when suits and then start playing again for a while when new manager comes in .



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,612 ✭✭✭SteM


    He should do one with Gary Cotterill and just speak Portuguese.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,242 ✭✭✭ceegee




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭jayo44


    I don't think it was by choice tho it was down to finance. No one would take the last few because of the money envolved.

    Maybe the mistake eth made was he went into the job with a mind of needing to clear out players instead of judging and seing what he can work with. Maybe it was designed to fail from the start. I was a huge eth fan but I can admit I was probably blinded by alot of what went before him.



  • Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ten Hag alienated half the squad. Even the ones who he bought as his lieutenants like Martinez and Antony seemed peeved with him at times this season.

    His failing was putting all of his confidence in the young players who even if there was no doubt about their talent (with some of them there are imo) they will by their nature be inconsistent.

    There's a reason most players in other top level sport only begin showing world class level and consistency after a few seasons and at a certain age. It's no surprise the one that went on loan is the best of the bunch now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,944 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Apparently Shaw injured again.

    That has to be the end for him, at least in terms of united planning on him being at all usable. Have to build a squad which doesn't need to to be even a backup.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,708 ✭✭✭✭FourFourRED


    Unfortunate for him but that’s really frustrating now. Yoro is with the squad at least.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,944 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Was looking forward to seeing him lcb against arsenal to be honest. Now both him and martinez out.

    Mazraoui, de ligt and Maguire?



  • Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'd say that's how it would have been anyway tbh. A worry on whatever side De Ligt and Maguire are on though.

    Though Ugarte has played at the back for Uruguay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,771 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    The problem ETH faced was that he had to wear tooany hats at the same time, coach, manager, disciplinarian, recruitment, to name but a few. He left the team and squad in a much better place than when he arrived. RA has an entire football structure behind him now. He's not going to be dealing with most of that stuff at all. Any player problems and Wilcox/Ashworth will be all over it.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,771 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    He must be close to retirement at this stage. His body is completely broken. It's such a a shame because you can see his quality when he is fit but it's just so rare now that he's barely played any football for a long time now.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Advertisement
  • Posts: 19,923 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Probably a good point. He was able to ride the wave when Ronaldo left and basically called him a clown because of the way Ronaldo did it being so ridiculous that the players could obviously recognise it was untenable.

    I think some of the others he fell out with or did not favour were popular figures in the squad and probably turned it against him. To have Sancho around the training ground being treated as persona non Grata while others in the squad probably felt badly treated too strikes me as the turning point. As right as he was to do it you need to get enough players inside for it to start working on the pitch and I'm not sure he did.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Ibragimov in the u21s against Rochdale, only 16 super talent, hope we manage him well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,270 ✭✭✭✭billyhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,771 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    I think having to discipline players while at the same time promoting a cohesive squad is what done it for him in the end. Ronaldo, Sancho, Antony, all left for the manager to deal with, plus the off field ussues with Rashford last season. A well run club would have people outside of the manager to deal with those issues but it always felt like ETH was left out to dry last season.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,708 ✭✭✭✭FourFourRED


    Statement from Shaw. Feel bad for him tbh. He clearly wants to play and his body isn’t letting him.

    IMG_3534.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,870 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,771 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Yeah absolutely, he's probably desperate to be back playing full time. He still has 2.5 years left, giving a guy with his injury record such a big and long contract sums up how badly run the club is.

    He had only managed to play a reasonable amount of games in 3 of his 9 seasons and somebody saw it fit to give him a 4 year big money contract 😞



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,708 ✭✭✭✭FourFourRED


    Yeah the word is “a few weeks” but honestly who knows what will happen with him next.



  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭jayo44


    Good start for ruud. Delighted for him.



Advertisement