Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

I'm almost sure I can recall you recently criticising posters for 'cherry picking' articles highlighting crimes committed by refugees/IPAs?

I take it those two that you mention in your post above weren't among the up to 40% of IPAs/refugees that are illiterate (as claimed/posted by you).

I would be hesitant to believe any statistics that these NGO's produce regarding refugee skills.
They, and the refugees they traffic, are basically incentivised to exaggerate and lie regarding their skills.

Are these highly skilled asylum seekers (of whom 80% have no passport at the airport) highly skilled according to themselves? When they are picking a name for themselves on their asylum application and an occupation ye might as well reach for the stars lads!

We'll be sending you to the 4 star citywest doctor Livingstone til we get you something more permanent. It's surely a misunderstanding interpol this man's a doctor raring to get cracking here!

I don't have the links to hand but they're in the thread a few pages back.

The topic also comes up in some of the ESRI reports showing how IPAs can end up in lower skilled work, at least in the shorter term because it can take time to have their skills and experience recognized.

I believe there are efforts underway so that this can happen faster.

Mellifont Abbey is only after closing and they're already talking about filling it with asylum seekers.

It seems that any bit of space that comes available, the first thought is that it can be used to take asylum seekers. Just keep jamming them in with no thought or consideration as to what happens next.

As others have asked how do you know these highly skilled people are exactly that? You are very quick to ask for evidence whenever someone suggests something that might be even the lightest bit discomforting to your narrative, but are also quick to throw out such blasé statements whenever you think they will support your narrative. So where is your evidence for such an everybody knows statement? Bonus points if it's from an actual independent source that isn't allied to Roderic or Helen's departments or the immigration industry.

"Has it occurred to you that one doesn't exist without the other? How many highly skilled people do you think would come here if they couldn't get childcare for their children, healthcare, cleaners, places to shop in, places to eat out in etc, etc? Not to mind the people their business might rely on for low skilled labour."

So we've moved on from we need to import more people to build the houses for the people coming over here to we need to import more people to look after the needs of the people coming over here? Right, I suppose this is an example of the circular economy that those in power are pushing.

"Maybe there are some areas to tweak in terms of permits for more essential services etc."

Oh so thank you, thank you a thousand times for giving us permission to even think that maybe there are some areas to tweak. This has changed since the start of the thread or the previous one.

I'm sure once the anti-immigration movement presents some coherent, realistic alternatives everybody will be happy to listen.

The health service uses and needs legal non-EU immigrants, with work permits.

The health service is not dependent on illegal immigration by bogus asylum-seekers.

Indeed, by moving towards zero asylum, and processing all asylum claims within a week, at the port of entry, we would reduce the demands on the health service.

Factually untrue. The Health Service can recruit staff though the WORK PERMIT SCHEME, not by head hunting IPAs in Citywest.

When a failed asylum seeker, that should have been deported, (subject to the law's protection but evidently not bound by it) is still in the country knifing 6yr olds (who should be protected by the law), how can you claim otherwise? And that would be but one infamous case.

Really not sure today's entitled welfare hounds and the asylum seekers want a two up two down like Crumlin or Cabra

I'm sure the number of unskilled migrants as a percentage of the total, is very high. Which people can accept as true because we see this with our own eyes. It meshes with our observed experience.

Those numbers cited by NGO's are likely underestimated by a significant margin because again, they and the people they traffic are incentivised to lie in this respect.

I can't see any reason for there to be any Albanians in Ireland.

Okay, maybe on 3rd-level student visas, but beyond that?

No that's my way of highlighting the hypocrisy of your posts. There is as much evidence to say that the minister for integration tweeting in 8 languages has an input to being a pull factor for immigrants as to say that it didn't -which is your argument. Show the evidence that it had no impact. Whether they contributed or not, the fact is that immigration has gone up 5 fold in the past three years.

Costs to accommodate IPAs is running at 2 billion a year. More than the entire budget for agriculture, almost double the budget allocation for depth of defense,dept of environment and climate and dept of tourism, over double the budget for the dept of trade and employment, 500% that of the dept of rural development, over 50% of our justice budget and the transport budget.

Simple question would this expenditure not be better served elsewhere? Maybe somewhere where the contributors to the income tax revenues of the country see a benefit outside of the select few like the mcenaney family.

O'Gorman is fundamentally a college academic and by virtue of that he lives in a world of theory and ideology that has very little resemblance to the real world.

On top of that he's aligned to a party who reinforces those beliefs under the guise of "doing the right thing" or "doing the necessary thing" to stifle dissent or resistance (how could anyone argue with what we're trying to do? We're trying to save the planet/people!)

He genuinely believes he's right and doing what's right... But then so did/do the defenders and adherents of even more damaging systems and ideologies in the past and today.