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Xtra-vision like amnesty to woo old posters back?

  • 26-11-2024 09:20PM
    #1
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,175 ✭✭✭✭


    Not sure if everyone reading this remembers Xtra-vision, a lot of people forgot to drop back Games, Videos, Consoles, DVD's etc. It got to such a point that most of the country owed them something and wouldn't go back in. They eventually had an amnesty and welcomed everyone back. It didn't stop them from collapse but it won a lot of us back with a clean slate that some of us respected.

    Should boards do the same, a great reset to speak, everything is forgotten, you'll be judged on your next post not your last.

    We need more users active users, threads that should be hopping are ghost towns. Call of Duty 6 anyone?

    Is it time to welcome people back and give a second chance unbound from what has been?

    and yes before anyone says it he's included.

    Post edited by Spear on


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  • #2
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,633 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    I admire your optimism.



  • #3
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,302 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    This will just become a rehash of several feedbacks on moderation and bans. A resounding absolutely no way from me.



  • #4
    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,058 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    The drop off in numbers is not down to cards and bans and rules. The Internet just isn't a fun place to hang out any more, and the wonderful posters this site needs to come back were not lost due to their own (lack of) discipline.



  • #5
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,465 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    It didnt save Xtravision!

    A version of it happened on CA with thread bans. And how many of those let back onto threads have since transgressed...

    I dont think anything more than that is needed.

    Site needs fresh blood not bad blood.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #6
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    The dropoff is mainly due to demographics. Once peak-boomer age is reached, the early onset dementia starts to set in which eventually leads to the forgetting of all passwords and usernames.



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  • #7
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,175 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122889129#Comment_122889129

    Not everyone that's not here was bad. That's why I'm suggesting an amnesty. The Journal comments section and Reddit just aren't the same. It's no Instagram or Facebook but some people don't care about impressions or likes. X is great for information and news but not for robust discussion.

    How would you even go about getting fresh blood, the current generation has an 8 second attention span. Disappearing threads?



  • #8
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,465 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122889332#Comment_122889332

    Fresh blood doesnt have to be young ... new users can come from different demographics.

    If its an ammesty that suggests they are not here cos of site bans and Im not going to say they were all bad but they must have had several strikes against them. They may have been banned for trolling, personal abuse.

    If they are allowed back, that could cause bad blood with the posters here who were subjected to that first time round.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #9
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,175 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122889444#Comment_122889444

    You're like me ma, people don't change! I'd mainly agree with her, I'd like to see the experiment regardless though.



  • #10
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,327 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    There will be a glut of old posters available from Saturday morning.



  • #11
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,465 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122889479#Comment_122889479

    The rot set in when the whole internet was made available on smartphones...

    You've shared your out of the box idea.

    Mine is:

    Ban posting access on mobile access to Current Affairs, Politics, Conspiracy Theory forums... the post quality will go up 50% and posters will have more time away to cool down and consider things.

    (Technically this is likely not practical but just flying a kite on it)

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • #12
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,175 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122889864#Comment_122889864

    Cut access to boost numbers, it's an interesting plot twist to the thread.



  • #13
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,465 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122889914#Comment_122889914

    Better quality content may attract more people in the long run.

    Some other put out there ideas...

    Boards could add an optional "Exit Interview" feedback form for those closing their account.

    Send a summary email with title of top thread in followed forums to accounts inactive more than 2 / 4 weeks or somesuch.

    Rather than try to lure banned posters back with amnesty, try to reel back in inactive ones.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #14
    LambshankRedemption
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    Are we ignoring the elephant in the room?

    Forums and threads started becoming ghost towns around the time of the site upgrade.

    Maybe an announcement to previous registered users saying the site has been fixed, please come back?



  • #15
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,175 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122889961#Comment_122889961

    I didn't specifically say banned posters, people could be triggered by anything, more of a welcome back, your history is irrelevant. Xtra-Vision would still serve you but you'd have to pay something off your bill.

    Exit interview, lol, how about a holding cell where you get battered while waiting for your account to be closed. Would be comedy gold..



  • #16
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,302 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122890064#Comment_122890064

    You've confused me now. Who other than a banned poster needs an amnesty in order to post again?



  • #17
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,031 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I think ‘old habits die hard’…is a reasonably accurate idiom.

    My own guess is that maybe 20% of people might have matured / wised up, but I’d say the vast majority would just fall back into old habits…

    The wums / contrarians, multi user account holders..

    Do more bad then good imho.



  • #18
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,175 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122890017#Comment_122890017

    It's working well. That's not a bad idea.



  • #19
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,465 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122890064#Comment_122890064

    Well lets start with the merely inactive users and see how that goes. Can they be reeled back as per LambshankR... Boards is open for a second chance.

    When unsubscribing from a mailing list you might see a list of reasons why. With a box for comments. A web form of that could be sent to posters requesting closure.

    Sometimes the holding cell is to stop them battering anyone else... maybe best to keep it private or it'd be used for settling scores

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #20
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,175 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122890088#Comment_122890088

    How many people had buckets of warnings, infractions etc but not necessarily banned that just went feck this. Maybe even people got the hump about what way the site seemed to be leaning, it's never been heavy to the right but it swung a lot to the left at stages, I feel it's a bit more centred now.



  • #21
    head82
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭head82


    I've nothing valid to contribute to this thread.. apologies!

    It was just the mention of Xtra-Vision that brought back so many memories.

    Please carry on.



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  • #22
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,175 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122890171#Comment_122890171

    Every click counts👍



  • #23
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,184 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Business was bad for the shopkeeper, so he decided to give all the barred shoplifters another chance in the hope that they might pay in future…

    The story The Scorpion and the Frog springs to mind.

    Not your ornery onager



  • #24
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,302 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122890148#Comment_122890148

    Then no amnesty necessary. They could come back any time if they just act like adults and keep to the rules. An amnesty won't change the political leanings of the site, though banning some people might have.



  • #25
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,175 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122890510#Comment_122890510

    That's a good analogy of what happened😂



  • #26
    Dante
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭Dante


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122890017#Comment_122890017

    This 100% - the site upgrade was a total disaster.

    First off, the site itself was down for like two weeks due to the technical issues which put off casual posters like from coming back. I just stopped checking the site and then just forgot about it for months afterwards.

    Secondly, the upgraded UI/UX was absolutely abysmal to the point that the site was barely useable for a long time afterwards. Personally, I still very much dislike the upgraded UI.

    Also the lack of mobile app is an obvious killer for user engagement, I still don't understand why the killed off the old 3rd party app after the upgrade.



  • #27
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 43,413 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058382292/xtra-vision-like-amnesty-to-woo-old-posters-back

    If anyone wanted to come back they just re-reg anyway, which I'm sure happens a hell of a lot.



  • #28
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,419 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Hard no. They were banned for a reason and that was continuing to cause problems despite multiple warnings and escalating sanctions. We've lost a lot of good, wonderful posters but the undesirable ones will just rereg because they've nothing better to do apparently.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #29
    Calahonda52
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,886 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    the site in in terminal decline

    I do miss the odd pithy lines: " You got rode" in reponse to some consumer issue

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/nov/26/enshittification-macquarie-dictionary-word-of-the-year-explained

    “I can’t pay my staff or mortgage with instagram likes”.



  • #30
    Kintarō Hattori
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,086 ✭✭✭✭Kintarō Hattori


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122889145#Comment_122889145

    I've been here since 2001. I'm now old enough that I have nowhere else to go. Reddit is just confusing and a mess. I like the organised layout of a forum. It's more readable if you will. As for TikTok. Would you go away out of that. YouTube is for watching videos! I'll need to start buying beige coloured clothes soon and maybe a pair of slip-ons. I've always fancied myself wearing a flat cap.

    Post edited by Kintarō Hattori on


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  • #31
    plodder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭plodder


    This site deserves to die. The sooner the better. Either that or it should make it completely clear that it's not for discussing controversial topics. There could be a place for a site that offers advice on forestry plantation, TV soaps, the latest premier league matches, pro wrestling etc, but if they aren't prepared to allow free discussion on controversial current affairs subjects from serious posters, then they should be clear about that and shutdown the current affairs forum

    “Fanaticism is always a sign of repressed doubt” - Carl Jung



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