Tesla model 3 vs ID3 GTX

People really think the Golf Plus/ID3 looks better than a Model 3 🤯

Speaking as a Golf driver for 10yrs, I'm shocked 😂

Just on the indicator stalks, while I agree it's unnecessary and a stupid feature, you actually get used to it fairly quickly and it's not that bad at all to be honest. The only time you just can't use it is if you are on a very small roundabout, you just won't be able to do your exit indication. The only two things that actually irritate me is the windscreen wiper sensors are terrible and the cup holder is rigid so can't fit a lot of stuff. Overall a brilliant car though. I've had VWs before and really like the brand but I'd take a M3 over an ID3 all day long.

Generally concur with the above, regularly jumping from a van and then into the Tesla on weekends and have no issue with indicating at anytime, the buttons are a different shape and left is on the bottom so it’s easy to identify by feel for me, I can see why some people will think it’s difficult but you just adapt. People that don’t like Teslas will make it out to be a bigger thing than it is.

If its mid life crisis and all about power, how about the MG 4 X Power

https://www.mg.ie/mg4-ev/xpower/

429 bhp, 0-100 3.8 seconds, €43,000

I'm in a Tesla Model 3 (standard model) since April and it's my first EV. My last three ICE cars were BMW 3-series (two) and a VW Golf Gti.

The Tesla is so easy to drive that a child can do so. It's my first automatic car and you simply swipe up to move forward and swipe down to reverse. It has more than enough acceleration for anyone and it drives quite well.

The indicators are simply not an issue for me; I was used to them in about twenty minutes and I switch to my wife's Seat petrol (with indicators) with no difficulty.

The downsides? I'm in my mid-50s and miss my CD player! Other than that, I'd probably prefer a few buttons for the heating system as everything is worked through the iPad but you get used to it very quickly.

It also does not have the feel of driving an ICE car especially something as fun as a Golf Gti. I saw a post by some fool on the Tesla Owners Group crowing about outpacing a BMW M3 in a drag race at lights. I've driven a M3 around Mondello and I can assure you that there is no comparison between the cars for driving pleasure. If stright line speed is your primary factor, get a motorbike!

But the Tesla is so easy for me now. Point it in the right direction and off you go.

VW require yearly service for warranty.

When did that become a thing? I dont think you are right.

Its not my first had experience and I have an ID.3. Their service schedule is every 2yrs. Its what is written in themanual and its what is currently listed on their website for all ID models.

Some dealers try to hoodwink customers into yearly services but its not what is actually in the T&C's or on the infotainment system which tells you when to service it again…. its every 2yrs.

Model 3 is technically a better car.

What do you mean by "technically"? Objectively the ID.3 GTX is better than the M3 on several key metrics.

Can you elaborate on that please? Do you mean its not possible to trade in Teslas in general with other garages? How does it differ to trading in other cars of a different brand to the one you are buying?

Better infotainment software, yes. Tesla hands down wins that. Their vision software is terrible though, VW is significantly better there.

The other elements…. charging speed, performance… not sure on that. Maybe you are basing your view on the standard ID.3 and not the GTX?… the GTX has different specs. I dont think there is much between them in either of those metrics. GTX is slightly faster for 0-100.

better handling

Not sure on that either. Have you driven a GTX with the improved suspension and dynamic chassis control? I doubt you have so I think you might be comparing apples to oranges here. I havent driven the GTX either so I dont think anyone can make the claim in favour of either car in terms of handling.

No legacy dealers to deal with

Some see that as a negative for Tesla. It certainly held me back until they opened a Cork office. Fine for all you guys in Dublin to "nip over" to Sandyford and get a loaner. Not so easy for the rest of us. Dealer networks appeal to alot of people.

Your last post above mine even somewhat agrees with me. Having a dealer network isnt necessarily a bad thing. Tesla are not easy to deal with, so I dont know why you put that out there as an advantage.

You have an ID, so of course, will defend that.

Not defending it at all. Just pointing out that the broad statements being made from a few people here that the Tesla is "hands down" the better car or is technically the better car is not based in fact/reality.

Each car has its advantages over the other and not much in it in reality. Its primarily down to some subjective items like looks that make one "better" than the other.

I have a Tesla too by the way, so I'm not biased to either.

If the new Tesla's with their foibles are a deal breaker, why not a second hand one like this one? It comes with AWD and indicator stalks

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/tesla-model-3-reserved-long-range-awd/38447620

I'm coming to the end of a PCP with an ID.3 and have a GTX Performance on order. I did toy with the idea of a model 3, but several things are dealbreakers for me:

1) No Apple CarPlay

2) Nothing like "D Mode with Eco Assist" on the ID cars: you're either in one-pedal driving mode or autopilot (which, by all accounts is worse than VW's Travel Assist). D mode is basically intelligent regen that allows the car to coast in a controlled fashion;

3) Really don't like the one-screen in the middle of the car approach.

Add to that the anomalous pricing of the GTX models, which are a steal, and the HK sound system, head-up display, and DCC and the basic fact that I've loved the current ID.3 I'm driving and the decision was easy.

I also wonder whether this anomalously-low pricing on the GTX models will last. The cars are significantly pricier in every other market. If there is any price increase on the new ones in the coming few years, I reckon it will increase the value of my car (or, rather, mitigate its depreciation somewhat) when it's time to sell it.