General Irish politics discussion thread

'Slaps in Gaza' very revelatory of your thinking.

Stop lying Blanch, seriously. This is what Matt Carthy said on the war in Ukraine yesterday.

"Sinn Féin unequivocally stands against the illegal Russian invasion of Ukraine and has repeatedly demanded that Russia ends its war against the Ukrainian people.

In government, Sinn Féin will advocate for a full Russian withdrawal from Ukraine, and we will fully support efforts to deliver humanitarian and practical assistance to the Ukrainian people, as well as supporting sanctions against Russia.However, an escalation of this conflict is in nobody's interest and we are facing a very dangerous situation.

As a neutral state and as a people who have first-hand experience of conflict and peace-making we believe that Ireland is best placed to act as a voice for dialogue and an end to conflicts, whether they be in Ukraine, Palestine or elsewhere,"

Ans the current government who have provided no military supprt to Ukraine sound like who exactly?

We offered no military support to Ukraine. That's the bit I find confusing. On one hand the current government, allegedly, are so eager for Ukraine to win the war and drive Russia out that they've decided to provide absolute no military support at all.

I find it definitely to connect those dots tbh.

Again, you've repeatedly made things up. Stop blanch, it's embarrassing. The current government have no interest in Ukraine winning the current war. You do accept that?

As for forcing Ukrainian refugees back to Ukraine. I assume that's why the current government have repeatedly slash benefits for Ukraine?

The position of the current government is absolutely clear. It's clear they have no interesting in helping Ukraine win this war and have no provided Ukraine with any military supprt and will never provide Ukraine with any military supprt.

I don't know why you insist on making things up, but fair enough.

The current government has provided no military support for Ukraine and has never shown any interesting in providing military supprt for Ukraine. It's seems Harris and Martin are hoping Ukraine will win the war by throwing stones at Russian troops. Im no expert in military tactics, but that is unlikely to prove successful I'd say.

As for Israel/Palestine, if the government care so much about Palestine or Lebanon, why haven't they been championing military supprt for Palestine or Lebanon like they have with Ukraine?

Before this campaign I merely disagreed with Sinn Féin on a lot of things (and agreed on the odd thing too) but some of the daft policies they're coming out with in this campaign are making me genuinely scared of having them in government.

This Ukraine thing reminds me of the populists in Europe like Fico, the AFD and Le Pen's party in France. Obviously Sinn Féin is not nearly as bad as any of them but it's a step in that direction.

I would have thought enabling an imperialist Russia like that would be against all of Sinn Féin's stated values.

NO, of course not. We're meant to be a neutral country. But the current government clearly claim to be very pro war, yet are not willing to do anything about it or go to voters and ask the question. They seem very weak and scared on the issue tbh.

The current government have no effort to supprt Ukraine in winning the war. They've made clear they will make no effort to ensure Ukraine can win the war. Ukraine aren't going to win this war with cyber security training.

Sf have been clear, increasing arms supplies and weapons to Russia and Ukraine is not going to be the catalyst for a ceasefire. Anyone who claims that giving more weapons to both countries is going to lead to a ceasefire and peace, is deluded.

SF have been the most vocal supporters of Palestine, much more so than FG and FF. They were active in calling for Israel to be brought before the ICC while FFG didn't want to get involved. They've repeatedly called on FFG to challenge Biden on his supprt for Israel and they've refused. FG have supported the relection of one of the most pro Israeli EU Commissioners during a time Israel was carrying out genocide.

FFG have repeatedly refused to tackle the serious issues that would allow peace in Palestine. Their delay and stalling on the occupied terroritories Bill while 40,000+ women and children were being wiped out by genocide was an utter disgrace.

Ukraine aren't defeating Russia, no one believes that even the idiots at the top of NATO. Russia will not win either.