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Milk Price III

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭Grueller


    I really don't understand what the just farmers group are doing here. We have the chair of the co-op in our area and they are trying to take him out on a Mickey mouse advisory seat. I know the idea is to get one of their reps on the board if they have enough on advisory council but if we lose the chair from the area we may never have it again. The worst part of it is it's his first cousin standing against him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,365 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I suppose the other side is at least theres competition for the seat. Most times the same lads just go back in unopposed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,322 ✭✭✭atlantic mist


    its prob the last chance one of them can be guaranteed to become a director, when does it start that directors are picked from the pool of council members?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,704 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,365 ✭✭✭✭whelan2




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,704 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    we would but we’re off the beaten track here. You’d have to know where we are to find us



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,365 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Every vote will be important in this one I'd say



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,463 ✭✭✭pureza


    Its the Inch/North wex advisory area

    A whopping €400,000 spent on the refurb of the Inch trading branch I hear,things like that are driving the discontent

    Theres 2 in the area being challenged,John o"Hagan looks safe but John Murphy does look shaky

    Word locally though is that if John Murphy loses out,John o'Hagan will step down and John murphy will run again for his seat

    I've my doubts about that

    Kevin Murphy unlike his 1st cousin is currently an active dairy farmer and a good one at that and fairly popular,so has a good chance I suppose?

    I dont think it matters which electoral area the chair comes from

    Bit of drama anyway and the canvassing on both sides is getting heated

    If john murphy loses his council seat,he's off the board of Tirlán aswell as I understand it ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Why would lads be discontented about the branch being refurbished? If it wasn't done it would have eventually been closed, it was in rag order.

    Yes John loses the board, chair,the whole works if he loses this election.

    Kevin has a good shout. Sound man and yes a very active dairy farmer. John has been excellent locally for a few lads in different bits of trouble I hear and there are also 5 new entrants in this parish that would say that he was very good to them in the early days.

    I would have heard that Jim will beat John O'Hagan as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,463 ✭✭✭pureza


    I’ve heard of a lot of people voting for o’hagan and Kevin

    If o’Hagan goes,it might be because he is out canvassing with John Murphy but do ya know there’s a lot more love for John o’Hagan out there than John Murphy

    It’s also about having active farmers involved I suppose now that it’s a CoOp for and owned by farmers,people who’d rather have 400k invested in milk price cookie jars than tiles wellingtons will be walking across in the Inch shop

    It’s hard to know what to think about the direction of the CoOp when on the one hand we were all told how great it was to have the Glanbia shareholding for years and then at the last vote being told it was basically a millstone that needed replacing with stuff as poorly earning as government bonds

    That said,I actually agree with the new direction

    Glanbia is no longer the (40%)purchaser or processor of the milk so just an investment now and not a great one,so yes it’s prudent to divest it

    That’s one good reason not to be turfing John Murphy out (assuming the part purpose of this coup is to stop the divestiture)

    But against that,you need good business people on the Tirlan board so as Glanbia shares sold aren’t wasted down the swanny,there’d be no milk price support cookie jar left

    Has there been a bit of that going on? Probably

    Thankless task anyway,whoever wins



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,233 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    400k is nothing in the refurbishment or upgrade of a business premises. Everything has to be tenderedvand go through books. Insurance company has to be notified. I have a friend involved in the OMC of a holiday home development. We were just talking about house insurance, and he mentioned that in there case insurance was about twice as expensive as if they were a private development. It was mainly down to insuring the common areas and no abiliry to individually load in the case of claims. The peculiar thing was hot works had to be notified to the insurer......welding, grinding and .most interesting using a heat gun.

    That Is what a Ltd business with shareholder is up against. As a private business owner I can make decision and bargain, bit as a manager of a company with shareholders I cannot.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,365 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    JOhn Murphy retained his seat



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Just home from the vote there. He won by a 2 to 1 majority is the word.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,365 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Heard there was a great turnout



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭Grueller


    I think it was 123 of 141 possible voters. Doubt the general election on Friday will be as high



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,365 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Lakelands staying the same for November. They also announced a top up of 0.8cpl on all 2024 milk to be paid mid January. Agriland had a typo of it being 8cpl



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 844 ✭✭✭degetme


    Looks like milk price has peaked. New Zealand, America now will pump while we're dried off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    Hard to understand how NZ with total production of 20billion litres have such an impact on price when total world production is around 700 billion litres..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,404 ✭✭✭ginger22


    That's the crazy thing about "word market price". A small swing either way means a surplus or a shortage.

    How can farmers be expected to carry all the risk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭yewdairy


    Most milk is used in local markets not traded international. Not sure of figures but I think its about 10% traded international

    New Zealand huge exporter so will effect the price of the product traded, we are obviously very dependent on exports



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,704 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    America won’t be much of an issue in the next few years. Beef price is crazy over there atm and there’s lots of beef being used so the heifer numbers aren’t there. They can just supply their own domestic market really. US is a big market for tirlan with protein supplements and drinks



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,984 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    isn’t bluestone a big issue in California too atm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,404 ✭✭✭ginger22




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,984 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭green daries


    The world milk price swings on plus or minus 1%of the average world supply is how it was explained to us at a group meeting once upon a time. Makes sense when it's explained. Newzeland has the influence because they are exporting nearly all there production onto the world market



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,453 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    The ‘globalized’ market has served the industrial/distribution agri commodity market brilliantly because it has put all the risk back on farmers. If there’s weather/geopolitical/transport etc problems, it’s all back to us to take the hammering..because they’ll just get the commodity from S.America etc.
    So shut up and take the price you’re given!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 Lorne Armstrong


    The Dairygold Board has increased the November Milk Price by 1.0cpl to 50.0cpl including 1.205cpl Sustainability and Quality Bonuses and VAT.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,365 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Glanbia up 1cpl to 51.08 cpl.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,984 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Arrabawn up 1 to 51.25 all in



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭Injuryprone


    Dairygold adding more red tape in order to attain the full milk price. I could see this nutrient balance training lead to an A/B price down the line if your nutrient balance isn't low enough.

    What hoops do other processors require farmers to jump through to get the full price?

    Dairygold now has:

    1. Water quality farm inspection.
    2. Use all protected urea, can only buy from dairygold.
    3. Soil sampling every 3 years instead of 4 (incl 50% biological analysis)
    4. Complete nutrient balance training and complete actions to improve it.
    5. Milk recording (min 4)
    6. Sign up to munster bovine herd health program.
    7. Be in the top 50% herd ebi in the coop or be improving ebi better than coop average.
    8. Use min 3 star beef bulls.
    9. As well as the usual sdas requirement and all the milk quality thresholds being met (tbc, scc, thd, lactose, inhibs, sed).


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