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Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    It's very simple. Give Ukraine more weapons. They are nowhere near receiving what they could. They've many more F16 and French fighter jets on the way. Possible Swedish too. You think 8 F16 would be a wonder weapon?

    Ukraine have a manpower shortage because they haven't mobilised men under 26. It's by choice and can be rectified. You are quick to mention Ukraine losses but what about the humongous russian losses? The rate they lose APV's and tanks is completely unsustainable and are probably suffering from man power issues themselves hence the north Korean troops.

    I wouldn't be too confident if I was Russia that I could keep this going. What will they use when they run out of huge numbers of tanks and APV's? People like you seem to desperately push the narrative that Ukraine can't win and must seek peace now.

    Incidentally that's the Russian western propaganda tactic to try make people believe more military support is futile. It's almost as if Russia is desperate and fears Ukraine receiving increased support. Your camouflage is very thin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,000 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    You got me. I setup this account on an Irish website 23 years ago on the orders of Comrade Putin (or the boss, as I know him). For 23 years, I built up my cover posting about Man United, PC gaming and vaguely pro-neoliberal/USA politics. Until I received the code word from the motherland to activate the sleeper cell. Soon, we will take over boards.ie and then the world…

    Jesus christ. I'm not a native English speaker. I'm Irish with a massive propensity to typo my way though posts.

    Thanks for the check in though, "Josip".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,000 ✭✭✭✭Sand




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,769 ✭✭✭Homelander


    So Ukraine should march their armies into open plains and line up colonial style? Please stop being so utterly absurd.

    When you're arguing "good guy Russia" is trying to avoid civilian casulties….I honestly don't know what to say.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,769 ✭✭✭Homelander


    This is like arguing how does Afghanistan stop the Russian advance.

    You don't. You stall, engage in a war of attrition, you outlast Russias ability to wage an aggressive invasion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Your common sense varies from cheerleading the American invasion of Afghanistan to peddling Kremlin propaganda on their genocidal war. You have a deeply disturbing outlook on the world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Took the afghans 10 years to outlast the much bigger soviet Union who had less historical interest in Afghanistan then they would in Ukraine. We're going to be 3 years into all out war in 4 months. While Russia will want to conquer Ukraine far more then they ever would Afghanistan, they aren't the Soviet juggernaut anymore so they'll fight on a few years yet and will completely use up their gigantic weapon stockpiles in doing some but they won't last another 7 either militarily or economically.

    Their only hope is the west stops supporting Ukraine then they'll have a chance. Unfortunately for them that won't be happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,000 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Where do the weapons come from? The initial 2022-23 "rush" came primarily from ex-Warsaw pact countries providing their old/refurbished stocks of Soviet era weapons/vehicles/shells. NATO topped that up for the 2023 summer offensive with a hundreds of "western" weapons/vehicles/shells which ultimately were from the same design era (1980s).

    That one-off rush is exhausted. All that is left is either monthly production (incredibly low - really Wizard of Oz type low) or stripping the standing military of NATO countries of their own active equipment.

    The embarrassing reality is that NATO has pretended it has limitless supplies of military equipment, but Ukraine has tapped it out extremely quickly. There is no more weapons to give. To actually build up the industry to churn out the weapons on the scale you demand requires immense planning nobody in NATO has done yet.

    As for mobilising men under 26, please - study Ukrainian demographics. It looks like an inverted pyramid. Ukrainian birth rates have fallen off massively since the end of the Soviet Union. There isn't millions and millions of 18 year olds ready to come online. Sending men in their 40s and 50s to die in trenches is cruel, but sending men between 18-25 simply spells the end of the Ukrainians as a people. Christ, I've encountered Ukrainian women who are relieved their 16 year old brother escaped to Ireland. You want to send him back to die in a trench, for what? NATO membership?

    As for Russian losses, I accept this is the hardest part for you to process but pretty much everyone - including the Ukrainians - accepts that the Russians have massive advantages in manpower, firepower, air dominance, etc. How can the side with all those advantages be losing thousands of men every day? Its a big logical jump I know, but lets entertain the idea that the Ukrainian propaganda might be lying to you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,000 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    I did tell you though, didn't I?

    I'm the future RoyalCelt going back in time to warn you that "Hey, this latest US/NATO adventurism isn't going to work out they way they claim".

    You are welcome. Or you can keep doubling down on 2004 pro-US ideology in 2024. I'm 20 years wiser. What is your excuse?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,731 ✭✭✭macraignil


    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c75lxypz7wqo

    Details reported of the conversation by phone between putin and Scholz where putin continues to demand that he deserves to be rewarded for sending his terrorists to attack Ukraine. He is quoted as saying "the current crisis was a direct result of Nato's years-long aggressive policy aimed at creating in Ukrainian territory an anti-Russian bridgehead”. What sort of deranged mentality sees the solution to an anti-russian bridgehead being found by murdering thousands of Ukrainians and making millions of them homeless?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I didn't like invasions by super powers 20 year's ago unlike you.

    And I don't like invasions by super powers today. I'm glad America were ran out of Afghanistan and they've now set that country back years. As the soviets did before. Leave them alone.

    Likewise I hope Russia are run out of Ukraine. You clearly don't watch the insane amount of footage of russian armoured convoy's getting blow up daily or the ridiculous amount of their soldiers lying dead.

    I follow channels covering both sides losses and Russia are suffering an insane amount. There's a great community who analyse the depletion of their storage bases and believe me they are getting low. Russia can't keep attacking like this forever. Whether you or I like it Ukraine won't stop defending and eventually Russia will lose. We can speed up that process by helping them economically and militarily.

    Your ideas of peace are pure fantasy and play into the Russian way of thinking. Not surprised considering your history showing a clear lack of empathy for invaded nations.

    Btw regarding your dig at NATO. They're a lot stronger now that Finland and Sweden joined which never would have happened had they not invaded Ukraine. Not to mention they've lost Moldova and Ukraine. Even Serbia aren't too keen. It's almost as if invading your neighbours or "brotherly nations" isn't a good idea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    The exchange rate of a currency is just one of several economic indicators of a country. A declining currency generally signals economic issues, lowered foreign confidence, and potential long-term challenges for a country. A weaker currency leads to higher inflation. Inflation reduces the standards of living for the countries citizens. Persistent inflation leads to civil unrest and loss of trust in the currency. A weak currency can be an indicator of low investor confidence in an economy, leading to loss of investments. On top of all this, this can be a sign of capital leaving a country, despite restrictions by a government like Putins.

    The sanctions have restricted Russia's access to international financial markets and limited its ability to conduct business globally. Also, a ruble worth less means that Russia has less buying power of international products to feed its war machine. It will cost them more to buy their tactical golf-carts and drones from Ali-baba, for example.

    As a general rule, you do not want your currency to drop in value. I havent even gone into the other indicators like the current interest rate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,000 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Lets be clear, you are recognising that Russia is a super power? You think in 2024 that Putin's Russia is a super power?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Far behind the USA and China who are true super powers. But in a few aspects such as natural resources and military stockpiles I would say yes. But at the rate they're losing equipment you can scratch military super power in about 2 years.

    Feel free to address the rest of my post.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,000 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    So how do you propose to defeat a superpower? Even if we accept your own rules (I dont), but if Russia is a super power by virtue of natural resources and enough military stockpiles to outlast 2 years of epic casualties, then that is still enough to defeat Ukraine.

    US estimates that Ukrainian manpower can only last another 6-12 months. 2 years> 12 months. We've already established that there is no "Arsenal of Democracy" production coming on line in the next 12 months.

    How does Ukraine win?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    No we haven't established anything. Do a bit of research and compare EU/USA military production across all metrics and you'll see Russia doesn't outproduce. Not even close.

    Certain US figures estimated Ukraine would collapse after 3 day's. We're now at Day 1,000. IMO Ukraine will still have men in 2 years which will be year 5. By then I won't be classing Russia as a military super power anymore if their rate of losses continue.

    Either you'll be right or I will. No point wasting time with your bad faith arguments, time will tell. I hope Ukraine prevail I'm sure you do too. Unless you still support your old "cringey" viewpoints as you put it. Which btw I agree with you on that self analysis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    Ukrainian drone intercepting other drones with a net.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Not made with hands


    Why did the Americans get involved in the northern Ireland peace process when it didn't involve them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,298 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Boxing full of scumbags. Trying to set him up with another fight.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,813 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    They were seen as a neutral 3rd party that had a sizeable diaspora from across the island and therefore a suitable intermediary.

    Say what you want about NATO, but the two situations don't quite compare.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,703 ✭✭✭yagan


    Abkhazia in revolt, will be interesting to see Putin's reaction. Can he spare troops from the Ukrainian front?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    how Russia treats its “friendly allies”

    At every turn Austria and Austrians been pro Russia, hard to feel sorry for em



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,703 ✭✭✭yagan


    For all that favoritism to Hungary it's still in recession after suffering the highest inflation shock in the EU after the Russian invasion.

    Of course he just won't admit that Russian aggression is why Hungarians suffer as he has eyes of reclaiming parts of Romania.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    That reply is not as ironclad and clever as we all know.

    The option was/is always to pay a poster for the use of their username on boards just for propaganda. Payment could range for a password from a few lollipops to a couple of grand for a pro western value poster.

    Where the embassy class it on their accounts though. Likely under propaganda purposes.

    Post edited by Say my name on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭CliffHangeroner


    There is people here who actually think others are being paid to post their opinions 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Birds of a feather.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,703 ✭✭✭yagan


    I'm sticking with the mental health issues explanation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,176 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    The Russian strategy of bypassing strongly held towns and forcing their defenders to retreat by flanking them does promise to reduce the damage to civilians and their homes from here until the end of the conflict. I think everyone will welcome that.

    You're funny! What a beautiful image: the Russians gaily sauntering through the countryside, leaving towns and villages unscathed because they don't want to cause civilian casualties. Sure why wouldn't you want to surrender to such a cheerful and considerate coloniser?

    Could it have something to do with the fact that other Russians are lobbing huge glide bombs right into those same towns and villages with the objective of causing maximum damage to people and infrastructure (translation: wipe them off the map). And using their longer-range missiles to cause similar death and destruction in those parts of Ukraine that they haven't yet subdued.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Glenomra


    Not a geopolitical expert but I have been around long enough to know that Trump's election as president of America will see immediate and enormous changes in Western society. Far greater imo than any changes he implemented or threatened to implement in his first term of office. He now has his 'loyalists' in place. Not just Ukraine, but all our economies and social systems will be impacted on. Despite some posters' optimism there is little to indicate that he will continue to pour billions of dollars into supporting Ukraine. He wants peace to enable him concentrate on making 'America Great Again'. The Ukrainianconglict is only an expensive irritant to him. Nor can European countries afford to fund Ukraine, both its economy and military needs, properly without severely impacting their own economies. That fact is already clear. The scrambling by Europe to maintain some level of control has already started. Scholz's phone call to Putin was a significant move towards some rapprochement. Just a few weeks ago President Ursula Von Der Leyen refused a Serbian leader because he had met some Russian officials. Will she now refuse to talk to Chancellor Scholz. We are in the final stages of some type of messy settlement.



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