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Gladiator 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,365 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Bradders is famous for this. Anyway the trailer tells us it's the same story as the first one but now with cgi baboons and sharks.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,540 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    I hope there is more to it than that, but it does seem to sum it up !!

    I will still go to see it this weekend thou



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,008 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    It's a weird review. Says it's great but also admits it practically copied the original scene by scene.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Ya...another sequel no one asked for...ill give it a miss....

    I would prefer to watch the original over and over again rather than this shìtty cashgrab.....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Times reviews sound exactly like what I was expecting this to be.

    In the early 2000's they couldn't find a serious and compelling plot to suit all the interested parties, particularly Russell Crowe. It seems in 2024 without any requirement to shoehorn in a dead character and even less requirement to write a quality script, they have reverted to giving us yet another superhero movie in a toga.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Lauras Law


    Since you pretty much just copied your last post in this thread, I’ll do the same with my reply and suggest, once again, that you might want to stick to speaking for yourself rather than acting as if you represent everyone else. Personally, I’m intrigued and prefer to actually watch something before deciding if it’s 'shìtty.'

    Also, for a film you apparently despise, it’s a bit odd that you keep returning to a thread about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,365 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Gladiator might be my favourite film ever and whether this was needed or not I haven't been this excited about a film since… Prometheus! Which I loved!

    The reviews indicate it'll be worth a watch and a rollicking good time. Although I'm already thinking about plot holes like how they transported the sharks to the arena. They even struggled to transport large sea creatures in Star Trek IV, even with all their tech.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,371 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Just back from watching this. It's pretty mid. Not bad but not amazing.

    Paul Mescal does his best with a poor script. Denzel is going full training day here, I was expecting a "Mars ain't got **** on me".

    The action scenes and bigger and more bombastic with way more people in play and as a result they feel less personal. There could be dozens of people of either side but everyone squares off one on one like it's a videogame like assassins creed. It's like they are afraid to join in in case they might accidentally create some danger or stakes for the main character.

    The biggest crime is that the film score follows modern trends of having a score that might as well not be there. Harry Gregson Williams creates a score that's aggressively insipid. It's a wallflower score that is afraid to make any impression in case it might accidently liven up the action scenes. It's a ridiculous movie that needed bombast and light motifs. Are John Williams and James Horner just deeply unfashionable now or has Hans Zimmer got incriminating pictures of every Hollywood composer and is ensuring he is the only one that can make an actual movie score.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭taxAHcruel


    For anyone interested Paul Mescal does a "Hot Ones" interview. Never knew him before and think he came across really well on it. Some fun bits about the term "Shitehawk" and GAA Chants and he managed to slip in that old Irish Phrase "Now we are sucking diesel" :)

    youtube.com/watch?v=oBiQB68cGzs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    I feel like crocodiles would have been a more reasonable choice. The shark thing absolutely is a head scratcher.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    I didn't like Gladiator at all to be honest. I do think this movie will be very successful. There hasn't been a big action movie like this, with global appeal, in a while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,480 ✭✭✭jj880


    Pretty obvious how they got to the arena. Sharknado! 🤣

    Im not expecting great things but Im sure it will be enjoyable. My son is 14 so Im wondering if he'll call BS on the sharks...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,834 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    The sharks may be BS ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ , but the Romans did actually flood the Colosseum on occasion so they could stage mock sea battles.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,655 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Been a long time since I've seen my local cinema sold out for a 5pm showing on a Friday on their biggest screen..

    .. it'll make a small fortune at the box office I'd say.

    Looks to be moving out of bigger screens in favour of Wicked next weekend so wouldn't hang around if you do want to see it on a big screen.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,807 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Saw this last night in Killarney. I didn't particularly enjoy the first movie, it's just not my thing, but I really enjoyed this. I do like both Paul Mescal and Pedro Pescal a lot though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭gossamerfabric


    At least they were smart enough not to kill off the main character this time.

    I smell a rushed sequel in the air directed by Ridley Scott if it does good business at the box office. The script will be rubbish on the sequel.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,655 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Really enjoyed it too..

    .. the end is maybe slightly anticlimactic.

    But good solid blockbuster fare!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,523 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I watched Gladiator last night, don't think I've seen it since it was released in the cinema. It's still a fantastic film.

    One thing that made me feel really old, it's was released 24 years ago this year.

    Ben-Hur was 25 years old the year I was born.

    Crazy to think of kids being born next year looking at Gladiator the same way I looked at Ben-Hur!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,862 ✭✭✭FortuneChip


    An incredibly annoying film. So many poor narrative decisions. It's like they had a series of cynical moments they wanted to shoot and didn't have a chorerent story to bridge them together.

    I'd low expectations, and feel somewhat glad that I did.

    Many might appreciate it for the spectacle, but there's not a single element of this that comes close to capturing the original.

    And... it absolutely p*sses on the originals legacy, which is very cheap. hard to believe it's from the same director.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,016 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Napoleon and those dire Alien films really killed off my respect for Scott as a filmmaker. I was tempted to see this last night but I couldn't be bothered.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    During Paul Mescal's Late Late Show interview last night, they showed a clip where his character gives a "stirring" speech to a bunch of gladiators before they head out into the arena. It was obviously an attempt to replicate the speech Maximus gives to his cavalry before they charge in the opening battle scene of the original. It was absolutely atrocious stuff, terrible writing. The kind of overly grandiose, pretentious twaddle that a fan or student might come up with. Of course, it was almost drowned out with soaring music designed to tell the viewer "THIS IS THE ROUSING SPEECH BIT, GET ALL EXCITED NOW!"

    I'm sure the visuals, the battle scenes and the sheer scale of it will rescue this film, but anything I've seen of it looks like B movie writing and scripting.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,950 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I saw that clip… I found Mescal's accent a bit off putting… Seems to be trying to put on a RADA \ Roman \ I Caligula type accent and not working for me.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,070 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    This is the pinnacle of Paul Mescals career...dont mind your Gladiator shìte...

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,760 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,760 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    It's called Gladiator 2. Like your cheap comedy franchise. It was never going to be anything but cheap.

    Gladiator stood on its own. A remake/sequel is just another example of shareholder value focused executives. Hollywood is dead

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,371 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    One other thing. This film looks much worse than the original. Netflix/streaming film making seems to have become a style choice and not a product of them being made with a low budget



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Yes. It's a fair attempt but it doesn't land quite right. Russell Crowe managed a sort of neutral accent in the original that was neither his own or an over the top RP accent. Mescal's feels a little too "British theatre actor does Julius Caesar"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,480 ✭✭✭jj880


    Cinema packed out.

    References to the first movie were about as subtle as a brick to the head.

    Worth a watch. Just about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,655 ✭✭✭✭Basq




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Exactly. It's beyond lazy. 24 years after the original and with no possibility of involving Crowe, there was zero need to try to connect this film to the original. Ridley Scott could and should have made another historical epic set in Rome and begin with a blank sheet of paper. Get the best writers and make the greatest film possible, set in this time period.

    Hollywood certainly is dead. The original would not get made nowadays, no one would take a chance on resurrecting the historical epic film. All we can get are poor sequels.



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