Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

What decision can Ukraine make that will dramatically help their situation?

Genuine non-snarky question (because I've seen some commentators actually suggest Ukraine attempt to reward Putin's invasion with land to buy some temporary peace. From a man who takes any move like that as a sign of weakness to punish. Who has never actually offered a genuine stop to the 24/7 bombing of the country in 2 and a half years)

Forget Rubles….butter is the new currency

Lets not forget the anti-theft boxes

never mind butter, nothing says good economy like these Russian criminals now stealing … cheese

Also Massive government layoffs in Russia now

In my view Ukraine needs a pause - not because it is the right or moral thing to do - but because they have little choice. Continuing like this will see more and more frontline collapse and more territory ceded. So far the Russian advances have been incremental but sooner or later as Ukraine's resources and manpower continue to decline they'll start taking much bigger chunks of territory. This is already happening in Donetsk where Ukraine has no answer to the Russian advance and they are taking over 3 settlements a day. That's going to spread along the front.

It's better for Ukraine to push for a freeze now rather than later.

That does not mean 'surrender', it means thinking tactically and longer term. The west will never recognise stolen territory.

dont really need an excuse. We could give them nothing. We signed nothing.

Not sure I understand completely, why do you think a "pause" is even an option?

They haven't been offered a pause or a ceasefire or a freeze or anything like that. There were some fake talks but they were largely shams.

They are being invaded 24/7, they can't just say "timeout". Any attempt to move in that direction would be taken as a sign of weakness by Putin and we know how he responds to that, especially when Russia has the "upper hand". If Zelensky hints to allies at the current stage that Ukraine wants fighting to stop - that's a red rag to a bull.

If Ukraine "pause" fighting, then Ukraine will no longer exist.

Their future will be of rape, torture and genocide. Are those really things you think they need ?

And thats why Europe has given hundreds of billions in every type of aid imaginable.

And yes Russia would stop. Not cause they want to stop, but because they cant get through the donbas region of eastern Ukraine without hitting grocery shortages.

More nonsense about “reality” with nothing to backup your statements

Main current affairs news story today is a certain celebrity in courts over rape allegations

What your saying is akin to a witness of such a rape calling for the victim to face “reality” and “pause” resistance to such a heinous act while its being perpetrated

The reality is that it’s not in Trumps power to handover a fifth of a country on the other side of the globe. A country that has successfully defended itself against a much larger neighbours three years into that imperialists three day special military operation

I fear you're right but if these Russian attacks lose momentum in the winter it could be they who come out worse. Don't forget while Russia is now making the gains in the Donbass we expected 2 years ago they are taking insane losses.

In 100 days they could lose another 1,000 tanks, 3,000 armoured vehicles , 2,000 artillery systems and 150,000 men. I've used numbers here well below the losses they've taken recently so that's a very realistic number.

How long do you think they can sustain that? If they take the entire Donbass 2 years from now but have run out of equipment there will still be an all out war.

It's very depressing for Ukraine but you have to remember they've not mobilised young men so their strategy is clearly to slowly lose ground while Russia burns itself out. I hate seeing it because I want to see Ukraine making steady gains not Russia.

On the bright side Russia was halted at Vovchansk and Ukraine still control the majority of it and a good chunk of Kursk. If the West would just give Ukraine more shells and the means to shoot down Russia jets I believe they could hold the line.

It's a real shame they let production drop to such numbers. After the cold war they should have been stockpiling 20/30 million of these things. That would have been a tangible deterrent.

Considering world population numbers, Putin must be the most murderable man in human history.

That still doesnt equate to the shame youre so keen on. Europe has done incredible work, hundreds of billions of euros worth. Taken in any Ukrainian who wants to come and is allowed. Humanitarian, financial, economic, diplomatic, military. All while avoiding WW3. Youll have to self flaggelate harder if you want any followers to join your shame circle.

Yep. Europe is waiting in the u.s. to save us from the guys who cant get to Kiev.

Help. Theres a half drunk, illiterate conscript with ptsd thousands of kms away, with fake body armor and 3 days training.

If Irelands population growth were to have matched Britain we'd have 22million by now. Instead we're still below pre An Gorta Mor levels.

Britain sent more troops to Ireland to protect food exports to Britain than they had in india at the same time.

Then there's ukriaines Holodomor under Soviet rule.

The reality is that Three years into Putin’s Three Day war some still can’t comprehend why Ukrainians would chose to fight Russians instead of lining up in an orderly q and walking themselves and their families into mass graves.

Reading some of the posts here one would get to impression that Ukrainians are resisting just for the craic of it and there is not already a long long list of atrocities visited on those in Russian occupied territories in that timeframe