Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

That is the problem waiting us in a decade. You let one in and he brings 10 more from his family in few years time. Do you think he will be able to support his family or will we have to pay the bill? 100k man can easily become 1 million in few years. Do you seriously think this is sustainable? They are economic migrants not asylum seekers. If I was in a war zone I would save my family before myself.

I don't think you've read what you posted...

"An Garda Síochána directly contacts Member States and third party countries via the Secure Information Exchange Network Application (SIENA) if a search on fingerprints is required. As a result, there are no figures available for fingerprint checks against EIS"

Biometric data, currently fingerprints and photograph are taken on application. Gardai clearly has the powers to act on this.

The question is whether IPAs are less scrutinized on arrivals than other travellers. I see no evidence to suggest this is the case, in fact the opposite.

There's so many false claims here it's hard to know where to start but I'll give this one a go...

Who do you think is not 'saving their families before themselves' and what's your grounds for saying so?

Has it occurred to you that the younger men coming here might not have families?

Or that they might be coming here to save their families, by earning enough money to get them out as safely as possible? Or to bring them here through family reunification?

You are not answering questions but you are admitting these men are not here seeking asylum. So they come here work 10 years and bring rest of their family. Great. If we keep allow this, is it sustainable? Where does it end? Money doesn't grow on trees and no one has any idea how much government spending for this.

It was some what nice to see immigration being a main topic on 'The Tonights Show'

Nearly not good enough response but it was nice seeing McEntee squirming, what awful politician and only reason why she has a seat is because of daddy

Anytime anyone mentions problems in an area in this thread with asylum seekers you have a friend or relative who lives their.

No matter what village, town, city or country in the world it is, you have a contact and everyone of them has nothing but positive things to say about asylum seekers.

That's a lot more amazing than someone not having friends from different areas.

I am not accusing you of lying and I am sure you are telling the truth, I just find it amazing myself.

This is the FFG plan to deal with immigration, gaslight the electorate and say its not an issue on the doorsteps so it's all good. Stick a brief mention in their manifestos, and then next year when they're back in, claim they have a mandate to deal with immigration with a new system that was clearly in their manifesto and obviously people are cool with it.

We already take refugees Identified in other countries under the IRPP.

Just to add some background to the situation in Ballaghaderreen and other small towns and villages in neighbouring counties.

In 1998, the country was in the midst of an economic boom. Bertie Ahearn's government wanted to spread the good times across the country so they introduced the Upper Shannon renewal scheme. This was a tax break for investment in large parts of Longford, Leitrim, Cavan, Sligo and Roscommon. It led to large numbers of houses being built in these areas despite no need for them locally. People bought them as they were cheap, at a time when the country was property obsessed. Houses kept selling so the builders kept building. There was no jobs in these areas apart from the house builders themselves. When the recession hit in 2007, the market collapsed. Many of these estates were not fully finished.

Theses houses lay idle for years with nobody to live in them. Then the numbers of immigrants and refugees began increasing in more recent years and now you have a market for those empty houses. The councils and government departments could solve their housing problem easily. Investment companies seen this opportunity and were happy to oblige. A hotel that failed after a short time was reopened to house over 200 Syrians. The hotel owners later bought a ghost estate nearby and this is now occupied. The owners are based in Cork. Two smaller hotels in the town now host Ukrainians.

In the last census, Ballaghderreen the population is 2400, with 39% born overseas. The local secondary school has students of over twenty nationalities. The current unemployment rate is 24%. Nationally it is 4%.

Article from 2017.

Cheap houses, terrible planning: the ballad of Ballaghaderreen – The Irish Times

Break International Law?

No thanks, we're not Israel.

I am sure we heard about complaints about food, apparently some hotels were not providing good food, so all not happy

It looks like now Ukrainians leaving without permission are losing their hotel beds, which imho for some of the return reasons from a "part" war zone country is ridiculous

Ukrainian refugees evicted for 'unsanctioned absences'

Organisations supporting Ukrainian refugees in Ireland have raised concerns about people being evicted from hotel accommodation for leaving without permission.

A spokesperson for the Department of Integration said its accommodation absence policy ensures that the State is "not paying for empty beds" except for "exceptional circumstances".

"The absence protocol was revised in October 2023 but it's really in the last three months that we're seeing it implemented on a zero tolerance basis which means there's no nuance," Emma Lane-Spollen, of the National Coordination of the Ukraine Civil Society Forum, said.

"The Ukrainian people themselves are quite often not aware of what the rules are or that they've broken them and unfortunately the result is quite punitive because they're evicted from their accommodation," Ms Lane-Spollen added.

According to a spokesperson for the Department of Integration exceptional absence permissions are granted on "a case by case" basis.

They gave examples including: "Hospitalisation and travel abroad for surgery or other specialist medical care" as well as the possible need to return to Ukraine "to care for ailing family members, meet with loved ones on leave from the armed forces of Ukraine and manage other unforeseen personal affairs."

However correspondence refusing approval for a leave request stated that reasons such as "inheritance, registration of property and wills, medical check-ups, medical assessments, dental care or requests to visit a family member for a lengthy period of time are not deemed exceptional absences."

Ukrainians who fail to secure permission to leave are given the option to "relinquish their accommodation" before they travel.

Looks like they are trying to get rid of people from a warzone to free up space for people lying about fleeing a warzone.

This seems like a positive proposal from SF, to introduce a register of EU citizens who arrive into Ireland, with the numbers of people now in possession of EU passports, no one knows any of the statistics on the flow of movement of EU passport holders so I think most people would support this: https://www.thejournal.ie/eu-citizens-registering-presence-in-ireland-sinn-fein-immigration-6541998-Nov2024/

Representative for Clare Tourism on RTE radio 1 there, speaking about how tourists are not staying in Clare due to the lack of accommodation beds as a result of them being taken up by IPAs etc

Explaining how this is having additional knock on effects for the viability of restaurants and cafes in the county that would have relied largely on regular tourist flow. Irish businesses and employees going to the wall over this. But sure who cares, they don’t matter as much as the randomers landing in apparently.

Set ourselves on fire to keep strangers warm. Makes sense.