Ireland Team Talk XII: Farrell's First Fifteen

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Pom has been on the pitch plenty of times in the last 18 .months when the lineout has malfunctioned too. Think his importance to the lineout is wildly over rated now

What kinda forum is this lol warnings all sides.

I really can't imagine any other sport where fist pumping at a big moment is considered controversial.

The crowd was flat at the Aviva as it often is lately and I think Lowe was trying to generate a bit of energy for the final push. There was nothing disrespectful about it.

Pom and Murray only got on for 10 minutes but that's the problem.. our bench is fine if we are ahead. But if we aren't....

Healy, Henderson, POM, Murray, Aki will probably not make the 2027 RWC.

We looked a little like we did in 2019 v England in the 6n. It looks like there needs to be a big shift in focus. We are too slow to phase new guys in and older guys out.

Same old mistakes being allowed to happen again & again. The lineout is a joke in truth yet nothing has been done about it.

They are right in fairness.

The issue wasn't the age of our starting 15, it was the quality of their performance.

We absolutely need to move on from Henderson, Healy, POM etc but that's a sidebar. The "meh" performances of Ryan, Beirne, Hansen, Ali, Crowley, Porter et al should be the concern. That was a poor enough AB performance - that we needed something from the bench to potentially win should merit the starting 15 criticism.

It is the rankings system that they are talking about, there is also an arrogance factor that we cannot see but others do see,

More arrogant than the English?, Don't think so.

Maybe not but still arrogant.

change definitely needed, few changes could solve a lot of problems. Theres no way the number one team in the world (ranked) can rock up with a bench of Henderson, Herring, O'toole etc and claim to be a top 3 team, favouring journeymen with zero upside over younger options is what killed the Joe Schmidt era.

Ireland national sides have a terrible habit of hanging onto players who are well passed their cell by date and waiting for an injury or the last possible moment to introduce talent. Osbourne only got in because of an injury and look how well hes gone.

Deadwood needs to be let go, Izuchukwu, Gmccarthy, Boyle, Prendergast etc need to get serious minutes in the coming games and not 5 mins off the bench when the match is already decided

I don't disagree with any of that. Murray's selection makes sense when you consider that we were obviously trying to target them in the air but none of those players, with the possible exception of Aki, should be in future squads and I think it was a mistake including them in this one too.