Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

Why are you still posting about crime in Ballaghdreen? Have you not read the AGS statement or have you decided to ignore it and keep posting lies about IPA involvement?

Meanwhile there are serious problems with crime in many parts of the country. Why do the anti-immigration brigade want to stop Gardai tackling serious and violent crime and instead have them:

• Deal with their 'peaceful' protests.
• Deal with their misinformation.
• Deport peaceful working people.
• Lock people up for short sentences who have the wrong/no documents. (Despite this being legal by international law).
• Investigate the nationality, ethnicity and immigration status of every suspected perpetrator and victim in the country.

Frain being involved with Roscommon leader partnership and other community projects counts as head in the refugee trough? Because a bit of community integration comes under their pretty broad remit.

Is that really the level you're at? Lapping up everything a few headbangers on twitter post.

Councillors are elected to get involved with community developments and such matters. They still get zero say in government level decisions on immigration, asylum and housing list directives.

I've posted numerous posts about who's head is in the refugee trough in Ballaghaderreen here's a hint it ain't Frain or any of the locals really.

If you'd bothered to look you'd notice this part of the country has been quite the graveyard for Fine Gael and the green party the last few years Fianna Fáil have struggled too albeit to a lesser extent and they'd do better imo if Martin wasn't heading them up.

The main beneficiaries are at this on a national level.

I probably agree with many of your views on immigration and the refugee policy but you really should realise there's sensible pragmatic ground in the centre/right political sphere without throwing your toys outta the pram because Philip (buy me a coffee) Dwyer and Andy the Dyson Heasman were told to f*ck off.

Why do you keep trying to make a connection between crime rates and IPAs in that town? AGS have stated it's not true and asked people to stop spreading misinformation.

Your article shows where people tried to avoid deportation by claiming asylum. Did it work? Twenty seconds on Google told me it didn't.

Now maybe you'll answer my question and tell me why the anti-immigration brigade want to take Gardai from dealing with serious and violent crime and instead have them:

• Deal with their 'peaceful' protests.
• Deal with their misinformation.
• Deport peaceful working people.
• Lock people up for short sentences who have the wrong/no documents. (Despite this being legal by international law).
• Investigate the nationality, ethnicity and immigration status of every suspected perpetrator and victim in the country

You continue to hide and refuse to answer the long list of questions waiting for you. But yet, you have the neck to demand someone answers yours? The comedy show continues.

All bark no bite.🤣

Do you think anyone here illegally should not be deported? The numbers coming in are just unsustainable, we are a tiny island country, the farthest west

I just want AGS to do their job

These is little point engaging with the poster you quoted. But as you may be new, I will attempt to save you some time and the inevitable circling of the drain he will attempt to draw you into and pre-empt his answer by replying with same speal he has been throwing out since the start of the thread:

Short Answer: Yes he does. The numbers are irrelevant.

Long Answer:

1. Ireland is a nasty little country.
2. Deportations are costly and not worth it, plus we might annoy our neighbours. Everyone in and no one out at all costs, we can never have too many people regardless of having inadequate services. In fact we should go as far as providing direct flights/ferries from the 3rd world to Ireland. He never sees a point where the cons of this outweigh the pros. Besides the "far right" is costing the state far too much money we should concentrate on that rather than the "non issue" that is immigration
3. We should turn our visa system on its head to prioritise people from the global south regardless of needing them of not because everyone just wants a better life, we owe it to them after all and if we don't they will just claim asylum here anyway. But its impossible for anyone seeking asylum to be "bogus" or "illegal"
4. Anyone who disagrees with him is at least one but most likely all of mentally ill, far right, easily influenced, knuckle dragging, hate filled, misinformation spreading racists

It has been pointed out many many times that it doesn't matter what anyone's status is, they are entitled to claim asylum. It is literally in the legislation.

I know lies and misinformation are a big thing for the anti-immigration brigade…

But I'd appreciate it if you would stop this running false narrative commentary on my posts.

I don't have to go any further than point 1) I think Ireland is a great country, I've never said otherwise, I can see why so many people want to come here.

I've no interest in engaging with you further.

Wow what a revelation .

What would you suggest for failed and bogus IPAs?

A man convicted of manslaughter in Ireland has persuaded the High Court to overturn a tribunal’s finding that he is not entitled to refugee status.

In a judgment published on Wednesday, Ms Justice Marguerite Bolger held that the International Protection Appeals Tribunal committed a fatal error in failing to provide the man’s legal team with a record from an early stage of his application.

She ordered the tribunal to reconsider his claim afresh.

The man, who cannot be identified due to anonymity protections for asylum seekers, came to Ireland more than a decade ago having married an EU citizen some years earlier.

Some time afterwards, he pleaded guilty in Ireland to killing a compatriot here. He was also convicted of assaulting his now ex-wife, the judge said.

While in prison he applied for international protection, claiming he would face threats to his life from his victim’s family if he returned to their country of origin.

Tribunal must reconsider asylum claim made by man convicted of manslaughter, court rules – The Irish Times

I really think I am at a lost for words with what they are get away with here, what they can claim, is it NGOs helping bring these cases?

The State must make sure that failed asylum seekers must leave Ireland “much more quickly”, Simon Harris has said

In reality how many if any, do actually leave

Well maybe you cam tell us why we should be stuck with illegals because the countries they came from won't take them back.

If people here knew that anyone convicted of such crimes was using that offence as grounds to remain in the country, any worthwhile opposition to this govt would get a vote that would make Orban blush

I see you are at the denial phase now… false narrative? really?

YOU have said every single point I have mentioned at one point or another in this thread or the previous thread. YOU have said these things not me. There is nothing false about any of it. But now you want to pretend like you didn't?

You continually cry about misinformation, but then have the audacity for example to repeatedly suggest that the Irish government actively uses people smugglers as a form of deterrence - but are unwilling to provide once shred of evidence for such a claim.

Of course you do want to engage with me, you cant expand/elaborate on any of the comments you make that I and others have been called you out on. Its clear at this point you refuse to as it just exposes how fragile your position/commentary is. Which is why for the entirety of the both threads it has been a recurring theme of obscure/selective answers, deflection, circling the drain, attempted derailment ,ghosting and the continuous conflation of visa immigration and refugees/asylum seekers in a thread that has nothing to do with the former.

Given your comments on a lot of things I guess it is easier to cry "false commentary" than actually answer when challenged.

So in short , I do not care if you do engage or not. It's clear you cannot take being challenged - you after all see everyone who disagrees with you as misguided etc and to be honest your attempts up to now have only made you look silly. If you cant take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Weak men, hard times.