Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

So an allegation of gang rape is now in either the rural crime or anti social behaviour category? I’m absolutely disgusted at RTÉ and its reporting of this crime. If any of you “reporters” read boards anymore, hang your heads in shame 😡

Your links are not statistics . One of the links refers to 50 asylum seekers in Louth that is not enough to even base an opinion on .

I repeat .

https://tomhealy.ie/immigration-and-crime-is-there-a-link-in-ireland/

'' Here in Ireland there are no published data on the incidence of crime by nationality or ethnic background.  The Central Statistics office, which has access to data on crime from administrative records of the Garda Síochána has stated that user needs in crime statistics that are not currently met include ‘nationality, citizenship and ethnicity of crime victims and offenders’ ''

Not sure how you could ascertain a 'tone' from words on a screen.

Gardai have stated that there is no increase in crime due to AS. They record the crime figures and analyse them every year. There is also independent oversight. If there have stated there is no increase because of AS, then there is no increase.

If there was some massive upturn in the crime figures that couldn't be explained away other then the rise in AS it would be obvious.

Tone applies to written communications too you know. And your tone can be condescending esp when you spoke about something being ‘blindingly obvious’

If they don’t record crimes by AS then they can’t state with certainty that there is no increase

You said it kinks to statements . You said statistics !!

'' You don't believe the official Garda and government sources? The ones that actually go to incidents and record the crime statistics? ''

Not stats for asylum seekers .

I'm pretty sure that earlier in the thread there was also a poster claiming there wasn't even a Garda Station in Ballaghadereen.

Until it turned out there was.

Then they gave out about it only being opened on certain hours.

You know different from the 24 hour police stations we have in other small rural towns around Ireland.

If there was somebody assaulted in Ballaghadereen over the weekend it's obviously terrible, but this lot have been waiting to play the victim card (yet again) for quite a while now.

Mod Edit: Warning issued for uncivil posting

Gaslighting by bad actors on this thread. That’s all Im reading. Going exactly the same way as the last one.

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Oh, the old "I know something you don't" routine from the far-right is in full swing, I see. Let’s break it down for you: Ballaghaderreen didn’t “choose” a candlelight vigil over "saving" the town from some imaginary invasion. The town actually shunned the far-right and their fear-mongering nonsense, plain and simple. And guess what? Predictably, the far-right types are now sulking and spinning tales, as usual, trying to act like they’re the only ones who “get it.” In reality, Ballaghaderreen’s decision reflects a choice for compassion and rejecting the divisive rhetoric pushed by these folks. So no, they’re not “waking up” to anything, except maybe that the far-right isn’t nearly as influential as it likes to think it is.

There's other 'bad actors' 'gaslighting' it seems. The judge who rejected the Coolock case was at it too.

In his judgment, Mr Justice Holland was highly critical of many of the plaintiffs’ allegations, which he said were a step “down a road which leads to racist xenophobia, discrimination and, history teaches us, not infrequently far worse”.

He said their claims together “comprise a vicious narrative ... by othering and dehumanising human beings” and by categorising them as “risk of contagion – disease-carriers, threats to children – and as criminals”.

Yet the dogs in the street seemingly know all about this IPA criminality.

Gardai never release anything that says they are investigating a gang rape, or anything like it! Media don't report like that either. A serious assault or a.very serious assault are always used.

Mod Edit: Case is before the courts no further discussion

Ah the usual far right type gets triggered and acts like a snowflake when he hears the far right label. You knew it was going to happen 😁 Going to the old “no immigration policy” trope right out of the far-right playbook was also predictable, but it's simply not grounded in reality. We do indeed have an immigration system in place, complete with rules, checks, and processes for evaluating asylum claims. Anyone claiming asylum is subject to a thorough review, including interviews, background checks, and sometimes even extended waiting periods. If an applicant’s claim is denied, they’re issued a deportation order, which is very much enforced. It’s not some friendly suggestion to “please leave whenever,” as you so flippantly suggest. That may be what gets said in far right echo chambers that you may frequent so I understand why you'd say that.

This also isn’t unique to Ireland, it’s a standard approach found in countries worldwide.

By the way, the far right got 0.42% of the vote. 🤣

Mod Edit: Poster warned for multiple uncivil posts in a short timeframe.

Im confused by all this Far Right talk. In the past we were told on Boards that uncontrolled open borders immigration is a right wing conspiracy. Now we're being told that the Right dont want immigration and that open borders is left wing.

A bit like my area - the left wing protesters against water charges are now being called right wing when they protest against immigration.....but they're the same individuals!

And yet you said I was being condescending towards you, a judgement made entirely on the basis of words on a screen. I had intended to reply at the time but I suffered an acute irony overdose from which I've just recovered 😅.