Why are we so fat?

I had something similar.

Disturbing push lately all over the media for such medical solutions to obesity. The same thing happened before in the US with pain medication. This is going to be big business and destroy millions of lives.

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Yes, I think if you come off it, the weight piles back on quickly. But from what I read it looks like appetite is depleted, and the "hunger" noise is switched off for users (as long as they are using it), resulting in significant weight loss relatively quickly.

I think it's the fact that users don't experience hunger that is making it so successful.

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Maybe they can. At the moment there is no evidence this is a safe and effective long term treatment for obesity. I don't know how it can be justified when there is currently a known safe and effective treatment available, a healthy diet.

There are reasons why the healthy diet approach is not currently working. These are not being tackled in any serious way and now that vast profits will be made by the drug companies there will be, and already is, resistance to promotion of healthy diet.

So based on one example you you think the townies are slimmer than rural people.

I never heard such nonsense in all my life.

Slimmer and fitter, it's well documented and it's worldwide. I see it in Ireland a lot. It makes sense, city people are more likely to use public transport, walk or cycle and they tend to have a less sedentary lifestyle.

I actually think it's more pronounced in Ireland as Irish rural people are incredibly car reliant, more than other European countries.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/07/health-inner-city-walk-demonstrations-protesting-keep-us-fit-and-well

https://www.irishmirror.ie/lifestyle/health/rural-dwellers-getting-fatter-city-15018424

https://academic.oup.com/heapro/article/29/1/118/574594

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-019-1171-x

The thing is about these drugs that help weight loss though, it won't fix the plethora of other problems brought on by a bad diet. Seems to be the skewed perception that not being overweight/obese means healthy. And while a low body fat percentage is certainly great for you, blocked arteries, gout, bowel cancer etc.

As has been mentioned before there is no better medicine than a good healthy diet.

Was flicking through tv stations tonight. Ros na Run, every second person was overweight or obese. RTE Creedon program, obese presenter. UK Wheeler Dealers Mike Brewer, another obese prestenter. Then beauty product adverts from Unilever and Procter & Gamble, overweight and obese female actors in the shower or underwear. This was all within a 2 minute timeframe.

You do see lots of people out and about walking in Galway City though Galwayguy in the Winter months, like has been posted before here there is a "growing" urban v rural when it comes to obesity markers in the population. Footpaths and roads that are lit and people walk,cycle and use the bus to avoid the car traffic.

Ireland was such a different Country in the 70/80's. TV for many households was 1/2 channels if they had one + many households did not own a car (even in rural areas) Snacking has become a pastime in the Country. Food as proportion of our income has declined so its far cheaper and the proliferation of Supermarkets has closed many smaller shops that were dotted around our towns and Citys so people have to travel further to avail of items and as a result do it once a week instead of walking to the smaller store 2/3 times a week.

The additional thing about vast majority of Supermarkets - they are setup to be accessed by a car and the trolley is about the size of a car boot so ya fill em up with the stuff ya really don't need.

If one starts shopping by foot or bike ya really notice your shopping habits will change. Space for snacks and convenience food die's - they take up far too much space.

Space savers like 1kg of porridge v's 1kg of sugar breakfast cereal (box is about 3/4 times bigger); plus walking home with 5kg bag in either hand is your gym exercise for the day

You're a Dublin hiker & swimmer in Kerry so naturally you're going to see likeminded people, and they're going to be fit. Same here! I'm involved in extreme sports that require stamina, strength and my fellow sports friends are fit.

But I'm with you, when I'm in Kerry I don't see as much overweight people as I would in Cavan, Donegal, Leitrim, Louth, Monaghan, Westmeath, Sligo and Northern Ireland.

When I visit my rural friends & family they tend to be overweight, softer bodies etc.. And there's a lack of energy, we'd be off walking, swimming etc… and the rural people won't go, they'd rather sit on those mad reclining sofa's and watch their phones. The worrying thing is the kids. Lots of them are very overweight and when they're fat at that age, it's really really hard to lose it.