Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

Unfortunately it wont matter who the coach is to a large extent. You could put graham henry in there and it wont make much of a difference. There are a lot of things fundamentally wrong with the entire setup at Munster and has been for a long long time and sacking the coach addresses virtually none of them.

If it was a mutual decision can we assume Munster have a backup plan to bring in a big name coach before the new year? Because otherwise letting your head honcho go 6 games into the season is a really really bad idea

This is Munster, not a hope they have anyone lined up or even a succession plan in place.

id say mike mullins is probably the last munster centre to win more than a few caps (i wouldnt count rob henderson)

john kelly played a few times for ireland but i dont know how much of it was in the centre

probably have to go back to phillip danaher for someone who was a regular for ireland

edit - keith earls played in the centres a fair bit i suppose

Mod: A reminder, this is the Munster thread. Posts like this are borderline trolling.

i dont think people are saying its a simple thing to do, but it is fair to say that munster hasnt produced a top quality centre in a very long time. rory scannell is probably the highest quality centre munster have produced for a while and he came through as a 10 ( i know he played in the centre for pres a fair bit too)

earls was a decent centre but was international quality on the wing so i dont really count him. shane daly hasnt played centre enough

He usually hits the nail on the head to be fair. Also I don't think he'd publicly share that opinion unless he had something to back it up. If true though, I'd assume Rowntree would want to make this known

The real question is why? What do the suits at Munster and the IRFU have to gain from removing him?

I'm not saying for a moment that he's wrong by the way

Hearing rumours now that Peter O Mahony lead a players revolt against him... The rumor doesn't mention any other details like why and doesn't seem overly believable to me

This thread title should change to include the word "rumours"

But it's not just at centre. And there has been a long list of centres signed in the last 20 years with some very big name signings such as De Villier, Fekitoa, De Allende, Saili

others such as Mafi, Tipoki, Nankivell, Frisch, C Farrell, Taute.

No Province is perfect but I feel there is a lack of honesty about issues off the field at Munster which are manifesting now leading to only a few central contracts. The go to has always been NIQ mainly and the IRFU have said no because it seems to be the only solution to those in charge down south which is where we are now.

In 2020 could Munater have spent better instead if Snyman and De allende? Or was it playing to someone's Ego.

Again though Names please.... players produced in last 10-15 years who have been regulars with Ireland and have won 40+ caps

Who was the last front rower.. Kilcoyne?

who was the last centre ???

In meantime There is something like 20-21 signings who could play at centre in the last 20 years.

Who was the last lock ??? In meantime there is Snyman, Beirne, Kleyn to name a few.

Yes munster have made strides but the go to for so long was SH imports primarily. Would a strategy with academy which meant 5/6 more centrally contracted players now instead of the 2023 URC win have munster better placed? Would there be a little more leeway from IRFU to plug gaps in front row in particular now too????

Marquee signings are great and all but were they signed to massage someone's ego .... to the detriment of the longer term

Ah no just a bit of a joke really with munster changing manager the day after united. Both are big brands having trouble living up to expectations on the pitch