Dash cam videos thread 3.4 (embedded car dash-cams only)

Id say he (the cyclist) did see the truck and did slow down before going thru the red light (he's clearly not going very fast). Both reckless and illegal.

There is a world of difference between a truck driver navigating a tight corner, who has no choice but to slowly and intentionally cross into the wrong lane - and this truck driver who took the racing line through the corner.

It's reasonable to expect that someone may be stationary (or even moving) on their side of the road, despite the red light. It's totally unreasonable to expect a truck to almost touch the opposing kerb, next to a high wall, with no sightline through the corner.

Had the cyclist sailed through the light a few seconds later, it would have been both of their fault, but the truck driver has a major portion of responsibility here too.

I'm a firm believer that a large proportion of VRU deaths are A) totally their own fault and B) instigated by themselves, but a driver hasn't just reacted quickly enough to something entirely unreasonable.

I know the criminal justice system is light touch generally, and the same its true for road traffic offences, but we often hear about very minor punishments for drivers involved in VRU deaths, but rarely if ever, that the VRU had a major part to play in their own demise.

Wrong way…

It is a strange one alright….she came from Damastown over the N3 towards Clonee. Could catch you off guard if not familiar.

They probably turned right coming from Kepak direction.
I wouldn’t get involved with trying to right them either, putting yourself at risk from other traffic. It’s a low speed area. They can do a u turn or get themselves right at the next junction. Not ideal but not the end of the world either.

Well, look at you, actually reading a report instead of just being seduced by colourful graphics and headline figures. Well done. Perhaps the fact that it's basically just a PowerPoint presentation with easy-to-read bullet points and large text is what's made the difference.

You make a valid point that the RSA didn't define culpability, other than to say 'culpability in this context does not refer to judicial or criminal culpability'. Unfortunately however, you immediately let your bias get in the way of any reasoned rationale. Somebody of equal bias on the other side of the argument you love to provoke could equally claim that because the RSA 'demonise' motorists at each opportunity (as would be perceived by that other person of bias), they'd be looking for every reason possible to assign culpability to motorists in as many cases as possible.

Anyhoo, old chum, regular practice would be that where a term is not assigned a specific definition, it takes on its ordinary meaning. 'Deserving of reproach or blame' would therefore seem a reasonable interpretation of 'culpability' here.

Next, because they assign shared culpability in only 2% of cases, and because the numbers add up neatly to 100, seems reasonable to assume that in each case, they assigned culpability to the person believed to be the greater contributor to the fatality.

Perhaps they did assign culpability to some pedestrians or cyclists because they weren't swathed head to toe in high-viz clothing, as per your postulation. There's nothing stated in the report to rule that out as a possibility. However, that would seem unlikely to anyone who doesn't share your bias.

It would seem far more likely to a reasonable person that culpability was assigned to e.g. the 22 pedestrians who were lying in the road at the time of the fatality, or the 24 pedestrians who were between four and five times over the blood alcohol limit for driving, or the 28 who were more than five times over it.

Surely you'd accept that they just might have been at least 51% responsible for their own demise, or are we going to see your inherent bias in evidence in your reply here again?

Out of curiosity I cut and pasted a similar essay posted here into chat gpt to summarise it in a couple of sentences. The post, not surprisingly, turned out to be complete BS!

And here was I thinking there might be a dash cam video or two posted but instead it's endless bickering.

What am I missing here? I can’t see the culprit

The silver BMW X-whatever changed lanes without indicating.