2024 F1 General Discussion Thread

Tony it is from now on.

And I don't think Sainz and Leclerc have ever hit each other? I can definitely see if the Ferrari is good next year that Hamilton and Leclerc end up tangling at least once…

Do you think he used it to make the pass or did he use it to get Norris +5s??

yeah I'm the same. Plus I feel that going for something like qualifying would be great, the race, you'd actually miss most of it but see one corner and that's it. It's odd, see the cars go by, wait 70-120 seconds and see the cars again.

I think I'd be bringing some sort of app to listen to and or watch the coverage while I was there, which would defeat the purpose. I have little to no interest in attending a race, but I'd be really interested to see an exhibition of the cars etc.

I think that is the point about the fallout of this. Verstappen hit the brakes late, went slightly off track but was ahead at the apex. He was ahead because of his late braking which made him go off track. Norris gained an advantage off track and was given a penalty.

If this is not clarified/more guidance given by the FIA then this type of defence will become acceptable and will make overtaking on a corner an issue.

You have to use the rules to your advantage. Mclaren are getting off pretty lightly in the criticism, they should have told Norris to give the place back straight away. Their in race decisions are very questionable at times

I assume it's Christian Horner and not Helmut Marko that has been keeping Checo with red bull as long as they have? I wonder will questions be asked about his leadership? Not taking decisive action when it became absolutely obvious that Checo has lost whatever confidence he previously had with the car has cost Red Bull the constructors championship, and they're now going to finish 3rd.

When they were dominant last year they could afford to have 1 driver, but this year they can't. Currently Perez is 212 points behind Max. Both McLaren drivers, both Ferrari drivers and both Mercedes drivers are ahead of him.

Perez has been crap, there's no denying that. But he's not the only person in red bull with questions to answer...

I had a thought last night. If I'm red bull I put Lawson in now. Give him the last 4 races to prove himself. If it works, aces. If it doesn't, spend an ungodly amount of money in buying out Sainz's new contract - Williams can then run Colopinto next year.

Red bull need to go back to being the ruthless team of old when it comes to promoting and trying out their junior drivers.

There’s definitely something behind the idea that the Red Bull becomes more geared towards Verstappen’s style as it develops. Would be very interested to see how Lawson would do in it as it’s a seat which has given some solid drivers a serious setback.

Lawson couldn’t do any worse that Perez on current form but it won’t be much good for 2025 if he would only be good enough to battle for the lowest points finishes. Sainz is a proven race winner who’s competed with the best in multiple manufacturers would surey be more adaptable.

Now whether any of that could happen commercially or practically, I don’t know. Seems like a long shot but would be exciting.

The handling of the Perez contract earlier this season was quite odd. Obviously must be a huge sway with the finances.

AAlbon Sargeant

Yes that woukd be brilliant. Its like Red Bul have gone from being ruthless to just taking it easy now do. Maybe this us thr kick Red Bull need to get them back to their old ways. As Riker would say " I liked the old me, What hsppened to him? "

Something like that. This is basically Red Bull now. It's like they got complacent and thought this run of form from last year would last forever but they have got a good kick up ithe ass this year.

Yeah I think Daniel Ricciardo would agree they're gone soft.

Perez brings a ball of money. Firing him isn't as simple. That's all there is to it.

It will be interesting to see what they do about it, the GP this weekend will go down as one of the most embarrassing by a top teams driver in recent memory, Perez was literally a laughing stock this weekend.

I also noticed how chummy ferrari and McLaren currently are, even though they are fighting for the constructors. I assume if they end up fighting for the driver's next year that friendliness will go away...