Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Yep - that’s his eye on the prize and has been for quite some time now - it may, may, explain his bizarre behaviour throughout the election - possibly running scared

It's being reported with some reasonably detailed descriptions of what occurred that Trump in 2020 balked at the costs of a funeral for a servicemember he had publicly agreed to pay from taxpayer funds:

“If I can help you out with the funeral, I’ll help—I’ll help you with that,” he said. “I’ll help you out. Financially, I’ll help you.”

The family’s attorney responded that the government would foot the bill.

That’s good,” Trump replied. “If you need help, I’ll help you out.”

When Trump actually got the bill, even though it wasn't his own money, he seemed quite furious, for reasons which will become apparent:

Trump became angry. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a **** Mexican!” He turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: “Don’t pay it!” Later that day, he was still agitated. “Can you believe it?” he said, according to a witness. “**** people, trying to rip me off.”

I know people like to deny that Trump is a racist because he hangs with Kanye and Diddy, but he's a racist SOB.

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-reportedly-raged-at-american-soldiers-funeral-bill-it-doesnt-cost-60000-bucks-to-bury-a-fcking-mexican/

And a wannabe Nazi, too, BTW. Formerly giving this story as an anonymous source years ago, Milley has come forward publicly to state on the record that yes, Trump told him that he wished Gen. Milley would act more like one of Hitler's generals for him:

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/john-kelly-goes-on-the-record-to-confirm-trump-once-told-him-he-wished-he-acted-like-one-of-hitlers-generals/

Trump, at various points, had grown frustrated with military officials he deemed disloyal and disobedient. (Throughout the course of his presidency, Trump referred to flag officers as “my generals.”) According to Baker and Glasser, Kelly explained to Trump that German generals “tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off.” This correction did not move Trump to reconsider his view: “No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him,” the president responded.

“He said, ‘Well, but Hitler did some good things,’” Kelly said of Trump in Sciutto’s book. “I said, ‘Well, what?’ And he said, ‘Well, (Hitler) rebuilt the economy.’ But what did he do with that rebuilt economy? He turned it against his own people and against the world.”

“I said, ‘Sir, you can never say anything good about the guy. Nothing,’” Kelly recalled telling Trump.

Trump is a blight on the United States and I hope this election is the last time we see him before he ends up in jail. No wonder so many of his cabinet members have come out against him.

The most ridiculous part is we'll have numerous posters who will come into downplay this as passionate about history or something.

His supporters haven't a fucking clue either.

The curling team are out...

I read this afternoon that

"Fox host Brian Kilmeade justifies Trump wanting German generals

Kilmeade: I can absolutely see him go it'd be great to have German generals that actually do what we ask them to do, maybe not fully being cognizant of the third rail of German generals who were Nazis or whatever"

Unbelievable. If Trump said the N word repeatedly, these guys would be out saying he doesn't know what it means but got a pass from Herschel Walker!

It's not as much that people want Trump (and a lot of the far right there do) but that politics in the US is so hyper polorised that the clear dangers of him being President are ignored in favor of supporting one's "side".

And yes, you should give a shite because a Trump win is extremely bad news for Western Democracy as a whole. It's one thing having yet another far-right dictatorship in the world, it's a whole other thing when that dicatorship commands the world's best armed military.

Did you see recently a former advisor of his suggested using Napalm on Irish peace keepers?

That's the kind of people he associates with.

in fairness hitler did 1 good thing. A thing that no one else had the balls to do.
That was hitler killed hitler.

Ah that old chestnut. True, Hitler did kill Hitler and that in itself is good. Would have been a lot better if he hadn't made a point of entrapping the entire civilian population of Berlin with him to share his fate, but given his moral bankruptsy it's not surprising.

Hitler and the Nazies did one other thing which I feel is good, but "good" in the grimest way you can attribute to the word "good". Thanks to them, and in front of the entire world for everyone to witness, humanity was given a view of what it was truely capable of. We were given a view of the merciless animals we could become, and how easy it is for us to become them.

If you were a surviving witness to this, or a student of history, you are now well aware of the price we pay as civilsed human beings to ensure that our base hatred does not control us. That we need patenice and understanding when we encounter people who may seem different, and to never discount their humanity because of those differences.

Trump and MAGA have failed to learn this lesson, or choose to ignore it. Some see the racial hatred of the past as something to admire. When presented with Nazism, Trump failed to condemn it. America is historically the enemy of Nazism, and in that moment when Nazis marched openly on their streets, the guy who they had as POTUS couldn't bring himself to roundly condemn Nazies on US soil, because he thought that some of them were his fans. This is the kind of thing that would have been a no-brainer to anyone who knows a damned thing about what Nazi Germany did, let alone someone who is supposed to assume the mantle of an Allied nation who famously spent it's own blood to rid the world of that facist nightmare.

This alone should automatically disqualify Trump from being in civilised company, let alone any position at the head of a democratic state.

One issue is education, and possibly also local culture. Here in Europe we have a knack of being more polticially "literate". We at very leasy have an idea of what certain things mean, and we tend to have the critical thinking needed to see if a politician is simply lying or bending the truth.

That kind of critical thinking comes with education. School encourges you to take a problem, dig into it and find a solution. In school you are learning this process as much as the actual Maths or English etc… The more you do this, the stronger that mental muscle becomes. So in a nation with generally better education, politics has to rely on solid arguments because the electorate are far more likely to call you out for making things up.

In the States, and in particular some parts of the States, Education has lower priority and in some cases facing immense challenges from GOP state governments. It is not in the GOP's interest to have an educated electorate. An educated electoratre would push back on bald faced lies like "Kamala is a Maxist" or "Cimate Change is fake!" or "Universal Healthcare will harm your family". Lies designed to keep them in power, while ensuring that their base of voters will point any ills in their lives to the Dems…even if the Dems actually try to help them.

It's these people who vote Trump and think Harris is the devil. They were simply told that "Trump is awesome, and Harris is awful", and that was enough. They don't have the critical thinking to question that statement.

What I am describing there is likely the worst of the MAGA cultists. You also have more level-headed right-wingers who are just conservative in their politics, and know well how bad Trump is. I suspect these are the kinds of GOP voters who went for Haley, and may end up voting Harris.

Because that's the *exact* same....

If Trump wins would you want to go there?

If there were absolutely no other choice, like RuZZians on their way, yes.

Him and Bolton can go and ..... Off.

Cowards who saved their stories for their books

A member of trump's transition team, only the best people

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4951768-linda-mcmahon-sued-wwe/