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Solar panels get €1,000/acre so what’s the catch?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    That's exactly it. We need renewables and people are calling out for it but no way do those same people want to look at solar panels or turbines. We need houses but all and sundry object to houses being built near them (why cities aren't allowed build up is another stupid rule)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭dmakc


    The term NIMBY can distract from what is in my opinion a very real issue. Primetime had a house in Meath last month literally surrounded by solar, the couple had moved out to green pastures and the only mistake they made was not owning the land around them. Now they're looking to sell with no callers.

    Seperately, farmers can't compete with energy money for leased land, farmers lose out while prime agricultural land becomes an industrial estate locked away for a lifetime / eternity. A few years back a solar company near me bought land from under the nose of a long term lease, farmer only found out after the deal was done. No honest farmer would ever conduct business this way, yet a faceless entity can run down the farmer without consequences, they had the security fence and cameras up in no time anyway.

    These private opportunitistic companies are in it exclusively for their own gain and will completely blacken communities if regulations aren't developed. Many don't engage with the community as same Primetime episode showed; "it's unfortunate that the community don't want us there" was the comment by the developer.

    If the country used these Apple billions to get solar grants on housing and businesses, we'd be much better off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,365 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I think the 400 acres is very greedy, they might have gotten a better reception with a quarter of that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,469 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    You'll surely try and knock a bit I'd craic out of seeing how much you can draw out of him?

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭80sDiesel


    Sure ain't pretty. The house in Meath mentioned above.

    A man is rich in proportion to the number of things which he can afford to let alone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    the land grabbing pricks coolmore are trying to set up solar farms now too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,013 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    For The guy totally surrounded by panels it does look bad , I'm not sure what the set back distances should be , but like forestry there should be some ,

    But it'd be a very big deal for people to be entitled to a view , it could mean no development anywhere ,

    Also should a neighbour be allowed object to what's on a piece of land - this was all cereals when I moved here and now there are cattle , as a vegan - I object , or your fences, on your land affect my enjoyment of my home ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,666 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Yea, €1300/acre plus €100/acre if we graze it with sheep index linked



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,666 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    There's 400 acres being put together not two miles from here as well, we've a big gasfed generator and 250 shipping container sized batteries being built here beside us as well



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,365 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Have to laugh there's a Facebook page set up against local one, any comment saying it mightnt be a bad idea or anyway logical is deleted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭cap.in.hand.


    That would probably qualify for tax free leasing as well if the company owned the sheep!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,365 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    These figures sound great but by the time you deal with the taxman is it worth it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭WoozieWu


    What does it look like 15 years down the road too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,666 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    To be able to get 75000 after tax in my case is very appealing, It'll put the dairy leases under pressure if they want the land around here if two solar companies cover 700 acres



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,666 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    The company have to maintain the site if they dont want the solar panels covered in furze and blackthorn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,013 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    If the farmer maintains the land , possibly at an extra charge , by running sheep or calves , is he or she still farming the land for inheritance tax purposes,

    Also if a farmer is getting 1500 quid an acre on say a 200 acre farm , he can afford a good accountant , which will probably help soften the blow ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,666 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    I think if you've less than 50% of the land you're transferring in solar panels you can qualify for agriculture relief



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,624 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Neighbou

    Neighbours had a petition going again one here. Solar panels make ideal neighbours if u ask me, they are there for the next 35 years. I'd prefer it to 1000 more new houses going in , roads clogged, 5 or 10% scumbags, more dumping etc.

    Think the UK has banned them from good land now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,464 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Independent had a excellent piece yesterday on all the different scenarios re the new agri-cultural relief stipulations, my interpretation of the new rules would be you'll get zero agricultural relief on land with panels, the new rules also mean if a farmer has his land in a company and transfers it to a son/daughter they don't qualify for agricultural relief on the land due to it been in a company, that's going to catch a lot of families out badly



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,365 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Someone said no more slurry, cows bawling, cattle breaking out. They'd be great



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,666 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    You're obviously more up to date than me, a neighbour signed up on the basis of being told that they'd get agri relief



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,453 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    Sent an email today to a local company to see if they were interested in me providing vegetation management with the sheep for a new pv they have installed. Be interesting to see if they respond.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,289 ✭✭✭50HX




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭Birdnuts


    I'll be interested to see how you get on - some big ones going in around my home place near Naas, Kildare and I'm assuming the wooly lawnmowers will be maintaining them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,624 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Someone told me your are not allow spread fertilizer with them, can't see dung spreader been let in either! N that the sheep are basically bulls$#t story for green credentials.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,365 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Would sheep get stuck in under the panels?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,773 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I'd be wondering would they eat the wires. You'd imagine they'd be getting a right scratch too on anything they could.

    See some pictures online of fields being sprayed every year with round up, others with bushes and trees growing between and others requiring mechanical flailing every year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭Mitchells33


    Going by a locally planned Solar Farm to me. You will be allowed 2.5 sheep per hectare in the month of March each year when you read the finer details of the proposed development!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭Birdnuts


    I was reading recently on X that the EPA and Fisheries have written to the Planning Regulator expressing concern about the regular use of Roundup at Solar farms adjacent to the lower Blackwater River in Cork. Quiet apart from that I would not be keen on a company thinking they could dose my land constantly with herbicide over the course of 20 years plus with its obvious negative affects on the soil structure and biota



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