Donald Trump the Megathread part II - mod warnings in OP, Updated 18/03/25

Thanks.

I don´t agree.

Thats fair.

So here's your first post today, I highlight your point about people discussing American politics and if Trump got in nothing will change and the same for Kamala.

Now here's my reply

I gave you a direct historical example when a trump policy directly affected the cost of living/housing here, and then used that same example to show you how it would affect housing stock here.

Yet your response was to give out about it being an echo chamber and that no one is allowed criticise Harris, you're not here for discussion, you're here for outrage

Orange man bad, woman of colour good.

We got the memo.

You made it abundantly clear you deride her because of her inherent traits of being a woman of color.

Yet you complain about 'hate speech' against Donald Trump because ____ ? Can you give any examples?

Your previous remarks on hate speech and Trump does not indicate you take racism seriously at all. Trump only weeks ago spread rumours on national TV about Haitians eating dogs but not really racism apparently...

I have it in my mind that Trump probably, more than possibly, does see the Democrats running a woman against him as an insult. Look at how he reacted to Obama as a candidate for the presidency calling into doubt Obama's right to run for election, then combine that with Harris being his opponent [which Obama was not] and being black into the bargain. If one was to ask Trump would he prefer to be running against a man or a woman, the answer would probably be a man as Trump is so machismo.

Hate speech includes racism. Any reason why you avoided actually saying it was racist btw?

Exactly my point.

Talking about Trumps remark and calling it Stupid and Indefensible wasn´t enough.

It was racist because it heavily implied it was Haitians and was based on unconfirmed reports of emergency calls relating to Haitian gangs eating pets.

Hate speech is bullshit and as you and your friends have shown, it can be anything you percieve as hate fuelled.

Racism is real.

No I get that. And that´s fair.

It wasn´t the wisest or most articulate of responses but it would be incredibly ungenerous to consider to call it racist or sexist.

The man has had multiple assassination attempts against him.

People have said they wish the assassin didn´t miss and would prefer if trump was dead.

Does that constitute hate speech?

I can´t anything you say as honest so no need to preface it.

Hate speech is a nonsense. Its a term to encompass anything that you don´t like hearing.

I have not once defended Trump. But much like the Tate thread, I don´t hate him enough for you, so you see me as a defender.

Shout into the void along with the others.

I never said anything about you defending Trump so I think you're seeing something that isn't there, I gave you reasons on why he's pretty unpopular for most posters. You're free to declare hate speech as nonsense but it's real.

This approach of getting annoyed with posters who are perfectly respectful with their responses is pretty weird. It's almost like you're the one who wants an echo chamber where nobody challenges anything that you say. 😂

No. But it is incitement of violence, and I believe in the very few instances I saw of that on the forum those users were sanctioned. But this does not at all get to your line about hate speech happening on a daily basis. We certainly haven't seen the user you directed your allegations at engaged in such speech inciting violence either.

It's odd this is the deflection we're going with while Trump is saying migrants are 'poisoning the blood' of the united states etc., calling him out on this and other words and actions is apparently hate speech to some?

Hate speech is a nonsense. Its a term to encompass anything that you don´t like hearing.

Yet you stated this:

You engage in hate speech every day against people you disagree with.

So, we are to take it to mean you just saw some speech you disagreed with and it upset you, not actual hate speech?

It should be noted that this is where Trump got his America First ideas. It should also be noted that trump’s father was associated with this vile despicable group. It is obviously a dog whistle to his base such as they are. What is now certain is that ethics, morals and character are irrelevant to trump’s supporters.

I wouldn't class it as hate speech, it's not a nice thing to say, but it's not doing so because of what he is but because of how he chooses to act (remembering trump was cheering on the attacker of Pelosi's husband, which is an awful thing to say but not hate speech). Others opinions on the subject will be different.

Making a statement that immigrants eat pets I would class as hate speech, there was 0 evidence of it and it was purely based on someone being a different ethnicity to him that he made the statement.

People who equivalence class this are dumb idiots who I wouldn't respect in any way at all.