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The Ryan Tubridy Show **Mod: Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    Just to comment on the section of your post regarding pirate radio. Independent radio in Ireland has been in a mess since December 31st 1988. When franchises were first awarded to the Dublin area in 1989, it is in my opinion that the late Robbie Robinson of Sunshine Radio should have been a recipient of one of them. For the other licence awarded, I was always suspicious of Denis O'Brien's Esat involvement, but if Radio 2000 was going get that second licence then they should of went with their original plan of getting the late Bill Cunningham to manage and program what came to be 98FM. RTE would have found themselves in a very difficult position as the two people I have mentioned demonstrated (along with the late Chris Carey) that independent radio could be extremely successful, exciting and produce healthy revenues. Their experience in music radio and knowing how to target and engage their audience effectively actually accelerated the department of communications need to produce legislation as Dublin's super-pirates were destroying RTE's Radio 2. Unfortunately those original licenses were not awarded to the right people and Irish independent radio went on a different trajectory resulting in a broadcasting rigor mortis setting in which effectively worked to RTE's advantage. The icing on the cake: RTE producing presenters such as Ryan Tubridy - super bland, having no Idea of what music radio is and to top it all off with lashings and lashings of super arrogance, privilege, smugness, entitlement and self preservation. Apparently this is supposed to be our great contemporary Irish radio presenting export? Another great example of how RTE and Irish independent radio in general is not in a good place.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    He described his move to VRUK as playing senior hurling or something to that effect iirc. Where was he coming from? given that he was not even prepared to practice or become at best remotely proficient presenting music radio. A radio music DJ does require the talent of speaking clearly and having a vocal that is pleasing to the ear, the technical ability to operate equipment and not only should they complement the music but also have a genuine respect for it and quite frankly Tubridy is not in possession of any of those skills.

    Exactly. I listen to Q102 when I'm at home. The voices of the presenters are not grating on my ear. They talk a bit about the music, a bit of chitchat, and it's easy listening all around - that's all I want. And then there's Tubridy with his babbling and over the top forced bonhomie. I go elsewhere for my nice easy listening, as soon as he starts.

    The late great Larry Gogan, for me was one of the true pros at his job. Knew his music inside out and such a beautiful voice. Tony Fenton RIP, another. Ian Dempsey is another that in my opinion, has the combination of music knowledge and a voice that is so easy to listen to.

    I imagine the powers that be, being sold Tubridy as the man who hosted Ireland's longest chat show on tv, and a leading radio programme for so many years. Thinking they had got a bargain. They must listen in amazement and think that Irish standards are shockingly low, if this was a top presenter.

    It would be laughable if it wasn't so sickening that he was so hugely overpaid for so long, at a job he was never suited to, in my opinion, and never improved at doing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,926 ✭✭✭yagan


    Little did he realize that senior hurling would be right corner back with the junior b squad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    The senior hurling quote comes from 2011 when The Greens entered government with FF, one of the opposition members made the remark in the Dail and it has become de-facto type of comment when you move on in a public career, it seems to me to be over used at this point, and it wasn't all that funny back then.

    RTE runs on the L'Oreal principle. They think they're worth it. In reality, they are not.

    I was pondering this principle in another thread after listening to the Kevin Bakhurst interview with Sean O'Rourke.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Ryan’s London Diary this week is simply an ad for The Bookshelf episode featuring Brian O’Driscoll, written in his signature 1930s British 5th class primary school essay style, with even a mention of some “bad eggs” to describe some less well-behaved children. Those naughty little scallywags should have their lemonade privileges withheld until their behaviour improves!

    I would provide a link but it’s so dreadful I couldn’t live with myself if I did.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,277 ✭✭✭amacca


    because hes actually superman.....ryan tubridy mild mannered tv/radio personality by day....man of steel at night!

    it's all there if you look for it......the son of Kal-El has evolved ...literally no one suspects.....so good is the alter ego.....the almost superhuman ability to introduce awkwardness into the most mundane of interviews....except it is superhuman.

    The Clark Kent **** wasn't washing....Lois knew **** well, she was just toying with him....you seriously think a bit of hair cream and some shite oversized glasses are going to do the job....you are going to need to try harder....so he did...

    Some even think he tried too hard!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Aunty Anne was an English teacher and as much as she is rolling around in her grave any time I post of Boards.ie she's spinning with that shite!

    The beauty of the show is that there’s trust between presenter and guest so that people are comfortable to drift outside their comfort zone.

    Don't review your own show, its really up to the audience to decide if there is trust and a natural conversation happening on the show.

    This week’s guest Brian O’Driscoll, was chatting away about reading as a kid when he suddenly remembered an incident from his childhood that he wanted to share.

    We know what the show is about, what do you do but chat on a podcast? "kid" in a written article? surely child? "suddenly" …. "go tobann" always a go to phrase and no need to say that the "wanted to share" at the end of the sentence

    He was a boy of around seven when a mean-spirited teacher sent Brian to the classroom next door to show the teacher there how bad his schoolwork was. The teacher in question was Brian’s late auntie Anne.

    Obviously a kind and emotionally intelligent lady, she knew what to do and so Brian returned to his difficult teacher who demanded to know what Anne had said.

    Brian explained that she gave him a treat to commend him on his excellent handwriting! A deft, diplomatic move that saved Brian’s blushes and told the mean teacher in no uncertain terms what she thought of him.

    It was an emotional moment in the interview and one that drew a lot of comments from listeners who felt it was a beautiful moment with most of them reminiscing about teachers who were there for them (and a few about the bad eggs).

    It was a life lesson that would stand to Brian many years later when his diplomatic skills would be tested on rugby pitches around the world.

    Sound like a made up story to be honest, or a really uninteresting story you might tell you family over Christmas dinner.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    You’re being a bit of a bad egg yourself now Ro with that unkind review.

    ;)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭Karppi


    She’s looking comfortably numb (bored out of her tree, not high as a kite btw)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The gobeenarchy ensured that Commerical Radio, much like Commercial TV wouldn't pose a threat to RTE. There was definitely a bit of vengance involved in how licences were awarded. At the time, Chris Carey was getting into satellite TV and decoders and that became his main business for a few years afterwards. The production values of Nova, Sunshine and some of the other Pirates was way above that of RTE.

    Pirate Radio gave people what they wanted. Small towns often had more than one radio station and those stations had amazing listener loyalty because, unlike RTE (and Tubridy), people could understand what they were talking about and relate to it. They were also tied into the local entertainment business in a way that RTE is not. I don't think that Tubridy would have made it in Pirate Radio outside the Montrose village radio scene of RTE. It was a highly competitive business. Even RTE couldn't compete despite 2FM buying up talent like Gerry Ryan, Ian Dempsey, Marty Whelan, Tony Fenton and even Dobbo. Larry Gogan was in a class of his own in terms of excellence. Tubridy's only claim to such fame was being Gerry Ryan's tea-boy.

    Regards…jmcc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Seamus Brennan from what I remember. Ironically, Eamon Ryan wasn't a bad Minister for Communications and some of the FFers grudgingly respected his abilities. Even then, RTE was beyond saving and the fact that Tubridy was being so overpaid at the time was an indication of the trainwreck that was to come.

    Without the frequent bailouts and the licence fee, RTE would not survive. Some ex-RTEers have talent (Kenny, Wogan etc) and do well outside RTE. Tubridy was very much a creation of RTE's publicity engine and the podcast figures are an indication. Virgin Radio could easily replace him with an AI.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,374 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I am not so sure I am in agreement. He was the last to increase the license but then cut exchequer funding to TG4 and filled the gap with the license fee, thus cutting RTÉ's funding indirectly.

    It amazes me that the IRTC didn't allow for 2 radio stations in each region. If an area could only accommodate one radio station then the other would close or be bought out by the rival. I doubt many would have been left with no radio station, and even if they were the IRTC could just issue a new licence for one new radio station for that region.

    As for the licensing of TV3.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It was in handling a non-broadcast issue that he showed some talent. RTE is and always was a no-win situation for any minister.

    The problem with many government committees is that they have political appointees more so than people who understand the issues. Pirate Radio was locally focused and even small towns had multiple radio stations. Regionalising broadcasting wasn't a good approach. Regionals can be more expensive to run and require help with their broadcast networks. If Ireland had a non-gombeen designed radio industry, the likes of Tubridy would not have been gifted a career.

    DAB was a potential threat to RTE and it would have provided localised competition. It was a disgrace that Forbes was allowed to destroy it.

    Then again, things are moving towards personalised listening with Spotify, podcasts and other services. In some respects, they mirror the impact of cheap hand-held transistor radios (1960s-1970s) on RTE. That created a younger audience that moved away from RTE to the Pirate stations. Tubridy was very much pitching to the same kind of aging RTE audience than the younger audience that switched to more relevant Pirate stations in the 1970s and 1980s and services like Spotify, podcasts and online services today.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,109 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    @jmcc

    Tubridy is a creation of RTÉ's publicity engine aimed at ALL ages just as Bosco was a creature of its time promoted by RTE for children audience.

    And the Common Denominator with Tubridy and Bosco is that Both got loads of Airtime by RTE to amply express their Upset and Sadness at being eviscerated and slated in public discourse - Bosco on the Late Late show way back when.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Think that Bosco even got kidnapped once. :) No chance of that happening to Tubridy.

    It is a very good point though.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    Tubridy would not have lasted 5 minutes on any of the Dublin super-pirates. In fact he would have never of even reached the stage in which either Chris, Robbie, Bill, Paul, Tom, Martin or any of their associated PD's would have trusted him with a live feed mic nor would they have been able to utilise him as a spinner. Back then there were no people like his current producer Connor Drew to hold his hand and clean up the mess. Going to the shops and making the tea? maybe. These people on Q102 who are fawning over him are quite clearly brown nosing and towing the company line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭TheBMG


    in his defence Ryan would’ve been about 14 year olds when the super pirates closed more than 35 years ago



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Tubridy would have been out of place on the Pirate radio stations as he seems to be the kind of presenter that needs a lot of support. He had a large support team in RTE but on Virgin Radio, it is evident that he has a much smaller team. He is probably prayng each night for a book show on Lyric FM because he certainly doesn't seem to fit in with Virgin Radio or its demographics. Unfortunately for Tubridy and his Enid Blyton inspired writing style, he's no John Kelly or Rick O'Shea. Lyric FM has its own problems without adding Tubridy to the mix.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    That wasn't my point. But considering the age of Paul Kavanagh and Mark Byrne when they were presenting on Sunshine 101/Nova.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭rightmove


    Bobson. In shakespearse its the lady doth protest too much.

    Lets call this the week of honesty.

    Tell us your skin in the game as shakespearse might not say.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭rightmove




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    “less of the personals please”

    I think you’ll find debate more engaging and rewarding if you were to concentrate on the proverbial ball, rather than the proverbial man/woman/other.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Certainly anyone in Ireland interested in lying, dishonesty, tall tales, false modesty, hubris, arrogance, financial impropriety, and national scandals involving the state broadcaster over the last 18 months would have heard of him.

    Ask 100 people in London though and I suspect the answer might be 0.

    Post edited by Peter Dragon on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    True, but he was already appearing on RTE TV as a teen, in one instance from memory (rather predictably) reviewing a book about U2 - he certainly started early on the everything Irish is totes amazeballs shtick. Surely the transition to radio at 14 would have been a doddle considering his televisual prowess?


    Yes, I am saying all of this tongue in cheek.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    Arguably Mark is a well known DJ who hosted Today FM Breakfast and for the past 26 years has been working as a Captain with Aer Lingus and Paul Kavanagh is DG of Riviera Radio in Monaco, friends with Prince Albert and many well known household names. They are very well respected within the radio industry and very well liked. More than I can say for the guy that is trying to find his mic fade in/out control slider on VRUK at this moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    As music DJs Mark and Paul have demonstrated flawless presentation and delivery down through the years. Both have wonderful distinctive voices for radio and for Paul who remained in the radio industry, not only was he an excellent music jock who worked between Sunshine and Nova in the mid 80's, he also proved himself to be an excellent PD for Sunshine HotHits 101 post Bill Cunningham up until that radio station ceased broadcasting in December 1988. He was then PD at Atlantic 252 during what many regard as it's most important and influential era in the early 90's - breaking into that UK market and overseeing that radio station acquire over 6 million listeners. For Mark, he could see the writing on the wall post December 1988 and experienced the mess first hand that was Century Radio, still being a young man he trained as a commercial airline pilot while still doing some radio work for Atlantic 252 etc.

    These people may not be as well known as Ryan Tubridy but for what they are known for, is and always be for the right reasons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,937 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    If that's all a radio presenter does, why did RTE pay someone the guts of €750,000 a year for several years to do such a simple job?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭nonetheless


    If that is what is believed, it should be a walk in the park for Tubridy. But again this is where he has failed miserably.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,139 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Tubs was grossly overpaid. His listeners on RTE belonged to the slot, not him. Hardly any have turned the dial

    I don't agree that Callan is underpaid either. His shtick is clearly not up for an hour a day every day - I've caught his show a few times over the past few weeks and he's been weak. Often interviews plod along, with his humour or interjections missing the mark.

    Today he had a bottomless pit of gold to dig on the SF problems they've been having and the best he could come up with was saying MLMD had just got a roasting on Morning Ireland.



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