Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

Well said. These 400 'extra' staff will likely be wet-behind-the-ear new recruits or juniors moved from elsewhere in the public service. All scared to death of getting accused of being 'racist' if they deny a claim for Asylum. I expect these 400 poor souls to rubber stamp each application out of fear and naivety, for a while at least.

This move shows the governments real intent which is to continue to accept increasing numbers annually. There is little or no plan to discourage IPAs heading for Ireland from this current government, if anything the opposite is the form horse - tweets in several languages, etc…

Well now you've gone n done it, highlighted race. What exactly is the portions of ethnicity worldwide at this present time. Lets highlight it. Ya want to bring up race. Lets do it. Lets see who is the real minority. Considering Nigera alone in population is to surpass all of north America with inhabitants by 2050 alone.

Oh nice! Predictable actually that Leo throwing his hands up now and saying immigration is something government can not control.

Unbelievable. This government or any has apparently no control over immigration.

Would they abdicate responsibility on other areas of governance?

"Hospital waiting list is something government can not control."

Law and order?

"Law and order is something government can not control."

This is the only they will claim this. And it's exactly as Douglas Murray says.

There's definitely something seedy going on.

https://youtu.be/ndtVvMnFw5A?si=VJuHmmE3MKFl1A4Q

Where's the conspiracy?

You just have to listen and read their own words, they are not trying to hide it.

Barberra Specter.

"Europe will have to accept that it will not be the monolithic culture it once was,and the Jews will be at the Heart of that"

Peter sutherland.

UN migration chief Peter Sutherland has said that the EU should do its best to undermine the homogeneity of its Member States by encouraging more migration and greater multiculturalism.5 Sept 2012.

This has been the plan for a long time now, what we are seeing now is the conserted effort of numerous groups all of which benefit from

We should really be working on our relationship and cooperation with the UK,

When the next elections come around if Starmer lasts that long and a party like reform gets into power,Like what happened when the rawanda deal was suggested,they will end up volleying refugees from Europe (france) straight back into Europe (Ireland) and not The UK,France or the rest of Europe will give two **** about us,

I'd be looking at our own tribe before others. Specifically hotel owners and such.

Even just our mindset of a continuous increase of house prices. I understand home owners want that.

It does imply a continuous increase in population to achieve that however.

973 migrants in 17 boars crossed the channel yesterday

The largest of daily arrives for almost two years

I dread to think how many will come here

All we really have to do (and should be) is the bare legal minimum.

If they don't like the conditions they can go back home or anywhere else that'll take them. No one is holding them hostage.

Meanwhile we should be asking any politician that darkens our door in the coming weeks/months what their position is on Ireland's immigration strategy/laws and how they and their party propose to address the free for all and outright scams that are currently occurring. Don't be afraid to speak your mind - the current approach relies on people being too cowed to stand up for themselves and their community for fear of being branded racists by people they probably don't care about anyway!

If it were up to me, anyone arriving with fraudulent or no documents would be turned around and sent back on the returning flight/ferry/whatever.

Likewise anyone with a criminal record likewise or arriving from places where it's blatantly clear they're economic migrants. It's ridiculous that we end up paying for legal representation and potentially imprisonment for scammers and criminals.

Ukrainians need limiting too. It's already started with the reassessment of supports but it needs to go further. It's not our conflict and there's a massive area west of the actual fighting they could go to. The conflict itself will continue so long as the West is willing to keep throwing money and weapons into it and it's a useful way to distract and destabilise Europe for Putin. We can't just keep accepting anyone who arrives regardless.

Ireland needs to put Ireland first. We have our own massive domestic problems that aren't being dealt with and need the billions and focus being put into all this. Once we get a handle on those, then maybe we can think about saving the rest of the planet!

Careful now, he will pretend he didn't actually say any of that…

So some current outstanding questions that @MegamanBoo has yet to provide an answer for:

1. An explanation of these "hard border policies" he continues to insist that Ireland has?
2. As he is worried about the costs involved in "useless deportation attempts" and the security costs involved with dealing with the "mentally ill and racists". Why given the situation he again insists we must have whereby anyone can come here without a passport, can claim asylum and most likely never leave if attempt fails - are we wasting huge sums of money running the system, having immigration control, visas etc or even a border.

The floor is yours, enlighten us.

This poster has been corrected several times but insists on pushing the same nonsense.

It's typical of the anti-immigration brigade, and raises the question of how to deal with a (quasi) political movement who just aren't grounded in reality.

Here's some more lies they commonly push.

Lie: Asylum seekers don't work and become welfare dependent.

Fact: The ESRI reports strong employment uptake by people from the IPA community.

https://www.esri.ie/system/files/publications/RS160.pdf

Lie: People coming through 'safe' countries are 'bogus' asylum seekers.

Fact: IPA's do not have to stay in the first 'safe' country they reach. While many do, it's of course reasonable and legal to travel further, whether for family reasons, job opportunities or long term stability.

https://fullfact.org/immigration/refugees-first-safe-country/

Lie: 'Bogus' asylum seekers arrive from 'safe' countries.

Fact: Countries which are designated safe by the Department of Integration are deemed to be so for the majority of people. People can still seek asylum from these country where individuals or smaller minority groups might still be persecuted.

https://www.thejournal.ie/what-are-designated-safe-countries-of-origin-in-ireland-what-countries-how-does-it-work-how-many-applicants-6285239-Jan2024/

1,317 asylum seekers caught pretending to be children

Record 1,317 asylum seekers caught pretending to be children in bid to avoid being sent home | The Sun

In Ireland also

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/social-affairs/2024/08/27/officials-concerned-about-adult-asylum-seekers-claiming-to-be-minors

Department of Children flagged concerns that in some cases, adults were claiming to be under 18

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the removal of any doubt that we're being taken for a ride left, right, and centre by all these 'poor unfortunate people'

From today's Indo :

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/hundreds-of-ukrainians-living-in-ireland-apply-for-international-protection-as-benefits-cut-state-warned/a284810468.html

The Government is concerned Ukrainian refugees are applying for international protection because asylum-seekers are provided with better state supports

Yup, it's all about the benefits. Colour me shocked!

You have to love the attitude/concerns of Roderic's officials though :

A group of senior officials from the Department of Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth highlighted concerns about the ability of Ukrainians to pay for essential items such as laundry, medical expenses, personal care, education costs and transport

The same costs that the rest of us have to pay then, even if on menial minimum wage jobs, welfare or homeless. But unlike the rest of us:

Officials said international protection centres provide meals, laundry, wifi, health costs, essential transport and entertainment for children at no cost.

Meanwhile, Ukrainians in state-provided full-board or self-catering accommodation are asked to pay their own laundry, wifi, transport and health costs

Aw that's just terrible. Those poor people!

Funny how as a middle earning taxpayer I am paying about 50% of my salary in taxes, charges, and other unavoidable bills, yet I get virtually nothing back from our Government. No wait I'm wrong - I can claim a pittance for broadband costs if I jump through hoops to do so. That makes it all better then!

And as for the long term? Remember that this was all supposedly a temporary response to help people fleeing war but we assumed that they'd eventually go back:

The department is also examining how to reduce the number Ukrainians relying on state-supported accommodation and seeking to make them more independent members of Irish society

That's right, they're here to stay - the same as the rest. Any notion of this all being a temporary situation has been put to bed in this one article.

Yep, providing supports for benefits shoppers is far more important than things like this :

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/its-completely-incurable-and-it-will-be-lifelong-for-cass-mum-of-baby-with-rare-form-of-epilepsy-faces-1000-weekly-bill-for-treatment/a410397810.html

Ms Kiely is now lobbying Health Minister Stephen Donnelly to approve the drug fenfluramine, which has shown a 75pc reduction in seizures for those suffering from Dravet syndrome.

Because the treatment is yet to be approved for public funding in Ireland, unlike in other European countries, it costs families €1,000 a week.

Poor little fella and god help his parents. The real scandal is that there's an effective treatment option and there's many other similar stories (scoliosis treatments for example), but far more important we continue to support the rest of the planet I suppose!

Ukrainians won't be going anywhere. That was acknowledged at the highest level long ago. The line of "putting down roots" works with applicants from countries such as South Africa (huge 😂) so it's definitely going work for Ukrainians.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/03/05/more-than-half-of-ukrainians-in-ireland-plan-to-stay-on-permanent-basis-survey-finds/#:~:text=The%20number%20of%20Ukrainians%20who%20plan%20to%20stay%20in%20Ireland,the%20beginning%20of%20Russia's%20war.

The average salary in Ukraine is a fraction of the Irish one.

They'll go home for medical treatment, dentistry and Christmas holidays. Basically continuing what they are already at.

By the way finding someone not entitled to stay through a lengthy process but at the end of it just giving leave to remain is the equivalent of throwing money down the gutter.

It's not as visible as providing them tents yesterday to tear them down today but it is every bit as wasteful.

Not to worry. He can try here next sure!