Hi vis discussion thread (read post #1)

As I said on thread - half the problems we have with infrastructure are caused by Road Engineers in councils, who think roads means for cars. A new active travel role (reluctant to use tzar) would be more use, whether that's in the RSA or elsewhere.

Aim or are? Agree the should NOT be standalone as they are but -they are 100% self revenue generating org now ; in real terms what this means is that they can pretty much focus on the easy stuff that they want to do. If they needed a begging bowl - they would not have been in a position to fob off the Public Account Committee earlier this year. Dept of Transport / Minister like's this arrangement as well especially when things start going bad.

Seems appropriate to me. Otherwise he'd be camouflaged and the presenter would look like they're talking to thin air!

Yep. I was there 20 years ago, and there was compulsory helmet laws in place. This isn't a surprise.

Given how active and sporty they are as a nation, the treatment of cyclists seems like an aberration. Having lived in Sydney, Perth and Cairns, people cycling round the cities just wasn't a common sight

Yeah ,similar in NZ , half the time I'd forget my helmet after work at 1am , remember when half way home and have to turn round..

I also remember in Sydney,1 of the lads I worked with used to cycle to job sites , while we were taking trains and buses - he literally had half the travel time that I did ..and that was pre Google maps telling him the quickest route to go

Yes, but if you were checking your mirrors, wouldn't you notice you were gaining rapidly. I know I'm not explaining this properly, but the whole reason you don't (or shouldn't) look once when pulling out of a junction. e.g. pulling out left of a t, you look right, left and right again is so you/ your brain can judge the speed of the road users coming from the right.

I get what you're saying - it's kind of counter intuitive in that the more distance you leave to the car in front, the slower you are to brake when you see the brake lights of the car ahead of you illuminating due to the fact that so many people constantly tap the brakes. As opposed to the people who drive 3 ft from the car in front and who immediately jump on the brakes (and accelerate again) as soon as the car in front does (causing all the traffic mayhem and anger we get in rush hour).

But in this case all the evidence points to the driver being distracted by something - a phone, say - as opposed to consciously misjudging their speed, because there is no sign of speed adjusting or attempt to avoid the collision.

How much is the bike-sized version?