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Russia-Ukraine War

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Edit: sorry just to clarify the arsenal 16km away was the recent one hit so that's 2 last night and 3 in total recently. Still a good week 👍

    So two arsenal's 16km apart. And that's seperate to the one down south? So 3 last night plus a 4th recently? Is that correct?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    for all the advances in CGI in movies nothing matches the real thing, explosions like are such an amazing thing to look at



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    That doesn’t sound like drones in the video



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,928 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    More good news!

    The detail here is interesting it’s specifically for domestic Ukrainian manufacturing industries



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,168 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Eh, I think you've double-counted the first one. Toropets (Tver) No.1 the other day, still burning; Toropets No.2 last night/this morning ; Tikhoretsk (Krasnodar) last night/this morning.

    It looks to me like this is the Ukranians applying the "road to Kyyv" strategy all over again. They know the Russians are shyte at "last mile" logistics, have traditionally depended on being able to steamroll their way into occupied territory and then hijack the local rail network to funnel supplies forward.

    The Ukranians created a traffic jam on the road to Kyyv and fecked the whole plan up without having to get involved in any full scale battles. Now they're doing the same - draining the frontline forces of men, munitions and machines; sabotaging railway lines, and targetting fuel storage facilities, making it increasingly difficult for the troops at the frontline to remain effective.

    Apart from destroying the munitions, attacking these sites has rendered them useless as logisitical hubs for the foreseeable future. This will inevitably force the Russians to redirect supplies to fewer and fewer sites, probably further away from the front line, with onward transport along narrower and narrower corridors.

    I think Ukraine has decided to stick to largely drone-based defensive battles while they concentrate on starving the Russian attackers into eventual submission.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    The ammunition depot that was blown up last night is in Krasnodar Krai. That's the Russian region immediately to the east of Crimea. The one a few nights ago was in Tver, which is north west of Moscow.

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    It seems like no ammunition dump anywhere on Russia's European borders is safe from the threat of being blown. This presents a massive logistical headache for them given that their typical tactics of reducing target settlements to ash require colossal amounts of ammunition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    The fact that these ammo dumps were full way beyond capacity shows that the Russians DIDN'T really have an ammo shortage , although these were probably also the logistics centres for all the north Korean ammo coming in , if Ukraine have gotten most of the ballistic missiles and more of anti-aircraft missiles it'll be a huge plus ..

    Russia HAD huge stocks of missiles for s300 and s400 systems , and obviously is making them as fast as they can - but apparently they are burning through them at an alarming rate - firing million euro+ missiles at Gmlrs missiles and even drones ,gets fairly out of hand pretty damn quick ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Well they never had a shortage of S300 missile's anyway thanks to a huge soviet stock pile. It'll take a few more years of Ukrainian drones to wear those thin but with depot strikes it'll bring that date forward quicker.

    Likewise those "Dumb" FAB bombs. All they need is the glide kit upgrade. Artillery they make a fair few million annually plus for now they're buying stock from NK which isn't endless. But they've definitely got a shortage compared to what they want. If they had 3 or 4 times the artillery shells Russia would fire 3 or 4 times more daily.

    They'll never run out of anything completely but they can reach levels where they can't fight this war effectively. Considering they're struggling to take northern Kharkiv and Push Ukraine from Kursk id say they're getting close to that already.

    At this point any massive arsenal that goes up in smoke is a huge blow to Russia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Apparently even their s300 stocks could be a bit constrained , they need to be refurbished, every decade or so .. which takes time , and apparently they fire them at everything right down to unguided 120mm rockets ,

    You're right they'll never be out , but stretching them is the quay , I assume part of the north Korean munitions thing ,is to be able to use obsolete artillery pieces ,that the Russians may not have huge stockpiles of ,

    I don't think north Korea uses a lot of standard russian 152mm shells ..

    And I wonder would they tool up to make 152mm

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    If I read this right only 1 of the 3 arsenal's hit are considered GRAU standard which Russia has 7 of and 6 within the jet drones range.

    So while the other 2 weren't GRAU standard they still seemed pretty big. Plenty of target's for the Ukrainians to work on and less air defence will be committed to the front.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭junkyarddog




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,378 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,386 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    One would hope so. If there's some truth to that and Intel shared with the west, the west need to come out publicly and state any attack by Russia on Ukranian nuclear facilities will be defended by western aircraft etc...

    No point in the west sitting on the sidelines. Defending them after they have been attacked would be useless.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Well, they probably relocated air defences to oil refineries, which is why Ukraine struck at ammo depots instead. Next week it'll be something else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,378 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Yeah, it's clever tactics. Who knows what's next. Bridges and train depots or something.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,758 ✭✭✭weisses


    101 drones shot down according to the Russians.... seeing the effects I really hope Russia keeps "shooting" down these drones



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭flutered


    it was supposed to be a eu us donation, but orban knocked it, by going alone it was on a majority vote, orban got sidelined



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,266 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    The kind of crap that a stroppy eight year-old would spout after some other kid nicked his ball.

    They really are cretins, and probably drunk ones at that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭zv2


    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭junkyarddog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,266 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    What an idiot, I wonder what he did to get the "hero" treatment?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,308 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Saying in the comments he was being sexually assaulted with a broom handle live to his relatives in the US for the purpose of extorting money from them. Went too far and then the rest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,266 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Somehow illegaly getting their hands on money seems to be quite a thing with some of the Russians, and that proves that they'll do anything to succeed in their money-making ventures. They're a completely dishonourable thieving murdering bunch altogether.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,344 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    No interest in peace from Russia... I seem to remember a lot of posts earlier on the thread bemoaning reluctance from Ukraine to negotiate with Russia, when it was obvious Russia had zero interest in negotations and was effectively demanding surrender.

    All gone quiet for... reasons.

    RUSSIA TODAY SAID it would not attend a possible second Ukraine peace summit in November, despite Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky signalling that this time he would invite Moscow’s representatives.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/russia-wont-attend-ukraine-peace-summit-6494141-Sep2024/

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭Polar101


    And then we'll wait for the spin that says Russia is entitled to annex territories because there was a referendum.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭AngeloArgue


    It seems like Ukraine has developed a new tactic to devastating effect on Russian military logistics. These long range drones, that we previously seen flying solo, are now being mass produced and released in swarms against major munitions dumps deep inside Russia. We've seen three major arms depots destroyed, taking out tens of thousands of tons of of Russian missiles and bombs, depriving Russia of strike capability.

    I don't know what's in Zelensky's victory plan. But if it adds onto what we've seen in the past couple of days then Russia must be very worried. Nowhere in Russia is safe



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,235 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    It wouldn't happen if the West provided enough air defence systems.



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