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2024 F1 General Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,727 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    launched in 2012. Covered the end of Vettel's range and the rosberg hamilton duel in full. I remember watching, I had sky f1 free as it was in the HD pack then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,990 ✭✭✭✭mickdw




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,264 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Anyone know what the converage is like in other countries?

    Do the Italian commentators favour Ferrari racers over the competition, in coverage and perception?
    Do the Dutch critise Verstappen's competitors?

    Is it uniquely a Sky F1 thing with the Brit drivers, as you would think based on the level of criticism leveled at them?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,494 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    I'd argue the difference with Sky versus other countries is that the Sky coverage is semi-global coverage. Their coverage is used in the US (ESPN), Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, etc. Basically an awful lot of English speaking countries get the Sky Sports feed on broadcast channels (there is F1 TV too, but that is separate).

    I'd fully expect Italian commentators to go all in on Ferrari. When RTÉ covered F1 in the 90s it was expected that they'd be all in on Jordan.

    If Sky F1 were UK only, then go mad being all pro-British drivers/teams. But there needs to be recognition that they are not just coveraing the UK right now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49,264 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    But Sky are a UK coverage team, with UK people for the most part. You are ok with Italians being for the Italians, but its an effing disgrace the Brits are favourable (to put it mildly!) to the Brits.

    Their exposure is more an F1 (as a company) issue than a Sky F1 issue though - wouldn't most of their revenue be coming from UK Subs,, or did they bid and win on the basis of providing a neutral POV for the global market? Does the money earned from Global use outweigh the money on the Sky Sports/Now TV subs?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Semi ironically, the British Broadcasting Corporation's radio coverage tends to be reasonably neutral.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,727 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    I would occasionally watch old german f1 coverage (seems to last without copyright strikes a lot longer) and their coverage, while pro german , is not as obvious as the british.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,015 ✭✭✭✭PsychoPete


    FIA have said the mclaren rear wing in fully legal. Pulled the statement from bbc

    “The FIA is closely monitoring the flexibility of bodywork on all cars and reserves the right to request teams to make modifications at any point during the season.

    “However, if a team successfully passes all deflection tests and adheres to the regulations and technical directives, they are deemed to be in full compliance, and no further action will be taken.

    “The FIA is currently reviewing data and any additional evidence that has emerged from the Baku GP and is considering any mitigating measures for future implementation.

    “This is part of the standard process when scrutineering technical legality, and the FIA retains the authority to introduce regulatory changes during the season if required.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,494 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    They have bought up the rights for coverage in Ireland but don't acknowledge that. They know they are broadcast around the world, but still favour the Brits. Italian coverage is in Italy only.

    The issue is probably more on F1's side in that, until 2 years ago (I think?) all of their highlights packages/etc used Sky's commentary too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭quokula


    The problem is that they falsely claim to be unbiased despite being virulently so. When you turn on international football on a British channel they don't pretend they're not in favour of England. Same with the Olympics and Team GB, or most other sports. But Sky are the de facto international provider of F1 coverage around the globe, constantly claim to be neutral and unbiased, while frequently pushing biased narratives that demonise foreign drivers and lionise British ones under the completely false pretence that they're just reporting facts.

    The UK print press is the same, and between them they have inordinate power where the narratives they fabricate permeate the entire English speaking world from the US to Australia, and inevitably get picked up in other countries too where they don't always have journalists on the ground and just translate and summarise the narrative being pushed in the British press or simply get gaslit into believing the story.

    If you go back to the days of Murray Walker there was just a different level of integrity there. He never pretended to be unbiased, he openly supported Mansell and in particular Hill. His reaction when Damon won the title is absolutely legendary and yet nobody ever had a problem with this. The reason being is that he was vastly more honest than Sky in acknowledging his own biases while simultaneously taking them into account and treating other drivers and teams fairly. He had no problem admitting he supported Hill while also openly acknowledging the incredible job Schumacher was doing in a dog of a Ferrari at that time.

    Crofty would have been the absolute opposite if commenting then, constantly claiming to be completely unbiased while incessantly praising Hill's brilliance and trying to generate controversies to paint other drivers in a bad light.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,494 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    From this video it really seems to me that we could be looking at Ricciardo's last race this weekend...

    All the Liam Lawson stuff has gone very quiet and, if this contract says he needs a seat or he can walk to a different team is true, then he'd be out there making a big noise unless he knew he was sorted.

    Such a shame how Ricciardo's career went...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,164 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    "Such a shame how Ricciardo's career went.."

    Yes a pity alright.

    I could see him in Extreme E though and maybe even Formula E.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,669 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Probably better to use "british media" over Sky. When Schumacher was ruling the roost, they really loved twisting the knife at times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,459 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Not many options left for Ricciardo. Audi the only open seat now?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,635 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Why would anyone want him? He's not good anymore. Results from a decade ago are no use on his CV for 2025.

    I'd thank him for the entertainment he gave in the past and wish him well in his career after F1



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,481 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Yeah it's time for him to make space for someone else. Great personality and a marketing dream but not good enough for F1 anymore (not the only one that falls into that latter category). 8 wins and a load of money in the bank, he's done very well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    Bottas and Riciardo to be a team of alternative presenters, grid walks, pit interviews and in race coverage. It will be serious but at the same time not so serious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,044 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Riccardo is made for NASCAR IMO.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,494 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Ya, if Ricciardo does decide to keep driving outside of F1 you have to imagine he'll go to the states (either Indycar or NASCAR).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,866 ✭✭✭bennyx_o


    Talk of him remaining in the Red Bull driver pool (not sure for how long) but that might restrict him driving in the US, although I agree he'll end up there at some stage



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    Ricciardo is just not a good driver anymore. He really shouldn't have been allowed back into the sport following his "break".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭Gamb!t


    Rear wing now to be modified for McLaren.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,164 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    So I watched this this morning on You-Tube. By that brings back memories. What a race.

    Lewis had a lot to learn back then. One has to Wonder though if Schumacher had of stayed another year at Ferrari would he have been an 8 time WDC champ? I think it was possible. The Ferrari was a good car that year. Also if Alonso had of stayed with Renault he possibly could have been a 3 time WDC instead of still looking for it. The Renault was not a bad car that year just needed better drivers. I think Alonso and Lewis are the only two drivers from that race still in F1.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    So is Daniel Ricciardo gone or what’s the story? The media are convinced that was his last race but there’s been nothing official.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,095 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    @MadYaker Judging by his post race interview he is yeah! He was very emotional.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,646 ✭✭✭Harika


    It's like everyone knows, all that's missing is officially confirmed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    The way RB have handled it is a disgrace imo, he deserved better treatment than that, having to face those questions over and over with it all up in the air.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,481 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Here it is for anyone who didn't see it. Sad to see but it's time for him to move on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,164 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    All the fastest laps so for this year,

    Screenshot_20240922_202735_YouTube.jpg

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,669 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Sad to see it end like this, he just hasn’t delivered and it sounds like Red Bull as a company can’t afford to lose Lawson.

    I’d like to see Daniel get to Indycar or WEC, he might not have much to give for F1 but he does for motorsport.



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