Clarity on new Current Affairs rules

@Ten of Swords anything on this?

I got the impression that the reports had queries that were interpreted (rightly or wrongly I don't know) as being digs at mods e.g. is this not unacceptable, why hasn't it been dealt with yet. If they were digs I can see why a volunteer mod might be annoyed.

Thanks for the reply, however, it is hard for the average to poster to know what falls as "very minor" on the scale.

Also, this is subjective - what one mod may consider very minor, another may not.

Also what is "thread spoiling"? How is it different to "meandering" or "robust debate" ??

We are being sent mixed messages, and it is genuinely confusing to know where the boundaries lie. 🙇‍♀️

I suspect this may be me, but if so, again, context is important.

When one has reported a multitude of posts over a number of days, all making personal attacks, and still nothing has been done (and no information given) and there seems to be a deliberate strategy by some posters of making all discussion of the actual subject impossible due to constant personal attacks, misrepresentation of what's been said and claims of "the OP has an 'agenda'", I think some impatience is understandable after a couple of days. Because it wrecks the thread - and from experience, I've seen threads closed down (in the past) because of other posters' wrecking strategy. Hopefully the new, looser rules will lead to those posters being removed and the thread left open, but how all that works in practice has still to become clear.

And I didn't even know at that point that meanwhile a poster who was posting supportively was being taken to task for her grammar!

Anyway - I'm prepared, as I say, to wait and see how it works out. But I think failing to even acknowledge reports doesn't help. Is there no option on Vanilla to even send an acknowledgement of some sort to say that a report has been seen? Or show on a post that it has already been reported?

I can tell you now it’s not you. Unless I somehow missed you doing it during my tenure.

The posters who do this are what I would call “serial reporters” who will report anything and everything they find personally upsetting or disagreeable.

It also doesn’t confine itself to posts that break the rules. If they disagree with your post they’ll report you and make a big deal in the reporting that mods are not around and how is this being let happen and of course invariably it’s the mods causing the site to die.

I know exactly what chips is referring to but I think it’s one of those things you’ll just have to take their word for it because unfortunately it’s not something you’ll bear witness to.

but as a non mod anymore I can confirm she is 100% accurate and correct.

I too think this is overly defensive, and may be down to interpretation, rather than any intent on behalf of the reporter to make a dig at the mods.

I have in the past made reports with comments like "Is this allowed?" It's certainly not meant as "sarky" or a dig at the moderators. It's a genuine question!

It seems we can't do right for doing wrong! 🤦‍♀️

there’s some difference between genuinely asking if something is okay or not and asserting a failure on the behalf of mods by reporting a post and all that’s said is

“Oh so this is allowed now then????”

That’s the same to you as

“Is this allowed?”

cmon.

Did you mean on your old account?

This is the only account I've ever had on here. I've had it for about a decade. Didn't post on boards.ie before that at all.

Apologies, I thought you were another user and, as such, misread what was being said.

That's fair enough and thanks for the clarification but the example in your post certainly suggested otherwise.

Because sometimes I am genuinely unsure if something crosses a line, or not. Which is why I would ask "is this allowed" when making a report.

For example, I recently reported a post that contained a link to some information on another party that didn't look right to me, so I reported it and asked if it was allowed.

If it is allowed, fine. I don't go back checking to see if posts have been actioned. I do actually just report and then leave the mods to it. Though in this specific case, it mustn't have been allowed because I noticed a few days later that the post was removed.

I'd agree with all this, but that's also why I think one may want to know whether reported posts have been examined and deliberately left up or have not yet been examined: what's the point in asking if one never gets a clear answer as to whether something is allowed or not?

(I do get that this is not at all the same thing as a snarky post at 3 am complaining that a post made, say, after midnight, has not yet been removed - that's not what I'm talking about)