2024 F1 General Discussion Thread

Well they say now that he had limited input to the redbull car recently and that one man can only do so much nowadays with the size of the design teams so it will surely be interesting to see firstly what they can quickly put on the car for next season and secondly what they can do for 2026.

True but I always wonder about these joining dates...… if the man is signed with Aston, surely he will be doing everything in his power to make changes from today whether that's ensuring the right people join him or whether it throwing technical knowhow at it even if officially on gardening leave or with redbull in some capacity until December.

How has Alonso spent so much of his career in an uncompetitive car? Then to top it off, he falls into the same team as Newey, but too late in his career to take advantage. Cruel.

Sky f1 confirming Newey to Aston, there's a video on YouTube below. He'll apparently be paid £20 million a year!

It's possible. They'll have Honda and Newey who he'll be very familiar with.

Let's go Oscar.

Well it is confirmed.

Ollie Bearman is racing at the Azerbajan GP for Haas.

I'd love it if poor Bottas was able to get off 22nd in a 20-man championship. It's not representative of his ability or performance (it's because the Sauber is rubbish)…

BBC reporting Newey will be announced at Aston Martin on Tuesday, 30 million a year.

Is the regulation change in 2026 very different to the current regulations. Reading about Newey and he seems to have nailed the car a few times on significant changes which could be the making of AM

Paid more than all but 3 drivers. Mad when you think about it. Stroll flinging money around.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1

Yeah its the 2 drivers AND the 3 highest paid employees.

https://www.globalsportsadvocates.com/blog/understanding-the-f1-cost-cap.cfm

Several significant expenses are exempt from the cost cap, including:

• Driver salaries
• Compensation for the three highest-paid staff members
• Travel expenses
• Marketing expenditures
• Property and legal costs
• Entry and license fees
• Activities unrelated to F1 or road cars
• Parental and sick leave payments
• Employee bonuses and staff medical benefits

The way I see it is that Norris proved that he is not a team player in Hungary and damaged the team's trust in him. This doesn't just impact the drivers but all of the engineers on the other side of the garage, all of the people back at the factory who poured blood sweat and tears into getting upgrade packages ready, when they see Lando throwing their hard work back in their faces out of selfishness it can really dampen morale and have a long term impact.

Oscar on the other hand has been very straightforward to work with, he complied with team orders without complaint in Australia for example, and on top of that he's rapidly improving from a place of inexperience and increasingly looking like the future of the team - he's the highest points scorer on the grid over the last 8 races, ahead of both Lando and Max.

So they could throw their full weight behind Norris, someone who's shown he can't be trusted when the favour needs to be returned, on the very slim chance he manages to catch Max and doesn't continue to keep throwing away good results with poor first lap performances, or they can let them race leaving a healthier atmosphere in the team. Ultimately this is the bigger picture they need to look at. Sometimes a few extra points here and there isn't worth creating a toxic atmosphere going forward into next season when they will surely have a very strong chance at fighting for the championship from the start.

Not saying you're alone in thinking it, but you've already said you prefer Piastri to Norris so I can understand why you're saying it

Norris is 44 points ahead of Piastri in the Drivers championship, so I can see why they're saying he should be prioritised. I can't see anyone other than Max winning the drivers championship given the reliability the Red Bull has shown. They're definitely in the running for the Constructors championship, though, especially if Perez keeps up his current form.

Unsure how Norris has showed he's 'not a team player' and 'damaged the teams trust in him' or 'shown he can't be trusted when the favour needs to be returned' when he let Oscar through? Yes, he took longer than the team would've liked and yes he did moan about it on the team radio, but he's a racing driver, he wants to win as I'm sure every other driver on the grid do. The two seem to get on very well so it doesn't seem to have damaged their relationship either.